Lecture on remedies
A lecture describing the process of choosing remedies for Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga and for curses. Lectures inspired by Pt. Sanjay Raths workshop at the SJC Asia Conference 2006.
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March 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
|Om Namo Narasimhaaya|
|Om Lakshmyai Namah|
Dear Visti,
Did you have a third part on remedies for the Badhak? Just checking because it is not here.
Best wishes,
Anurag.
March 12th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
||Hare Ram Krishna||
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
In KSY/KAY, this needs to be remedied first. However, if there are curses as well, will they also need remedy? If so then will they need remedy only after KSY/KAY has been broken successfully.
Regards
Sharat
March 12th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Dear Anurag and Sharat, Namaskar.
We will delay the badhakesh lecture until the next Sunday. After those two lectures i was completely drained for energy.
The beauty of Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga is once you break it with a suitable remedy that remedy actually acts as a new controlling factor in the chart. I.e. if you break it through Kamalatmika sadhana suddenly the entire yoga becomes a Kamalatmika yoga instead and the entire life heads in that direction. As a result you rarely have to give any remedy for curses or anything like that… neat eh?
Yours sincerley, Visti.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Dear Visti,
My daughter has some ADD and autism problems.could you please suggest some remedies. Her details are
Jan 06/98, 7:01pm, Hyderabad, India.
Thanks
March 12th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Dear Chandra, Namaskar
Such cases are very difficult to remedy but they all involve the strengthening of Guru in the persons chart. In your daughters chart its apparent that the affliction to lagnesh and Guru is the problem and whilst I cannot personally give such a remedy I would advise you to make it a life’s goal to seek out a priest who can give you or your daughter a Tara Mantra for her well being.
To start you can try to teach her this mantra: Hreem Streem Hum Phat. Just try.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Ahishekem with Gangajal..
Dear All,
I read abhishek wiht ganga jal to linga ca releive at gr8 extent..reason..
i feel gangajal being moon here and shiva jupiter ..gives grea8 releif for jataka..
March 14th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Dear Visti,
Your lecture on remedies is very inspiring, particularly when you explained the implications of a KSY and KAY. The approach of remedies in both the cases are very logical and inspiring.
I have a doubt : If the KSY and KAY happen in the D-charts, do the same principles get applied ?
In the case of female : 18-08-1978, 0326Hrs IST, Allahabad, India; the KAY forms in 2/8 axix. Moon joins Ketu and Lagna joins with exalted Jupiter. Since, KAY forms in D-9, does that mean that the marital life is a burden to her ? In order to break the yoga, Can she resort herself with the mahavidya worship of Jupiter or by the mahavidya worship of Moon through somebody, say parents.
Kindly guide me and oblige.
Thanks,
Vijay Kumar
March 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Hi Vijay, Namaskar.
Rasi is the most important. Without the rasi we cannot even step into the higher divisions… if the door is locked we cannot enter the house, let alone the bathroom.
So we need to solve the issue in the Rasi first. The yoga forming in higher divisions do show problems arising, but its the rasi which is the key to this.
Prefer the planet in lagna if possible and ask her to wear a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz after having a priest perform Jeeva Nyasa to the ring (to protect the health) and letting her start wear it on a thursday morning.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Visti ji, I am listening to your lesson on curses. My dob is January 19, 1951, POB is Hubli Karnataka, India
TOB is 10:10 am.
besides the Gayatri japa do I do anything else?
You mentioned that I have a curse of brahmin. my venus is also conjunct with sun. is that the reason for my marriage not lasting?
should I wear a yellow sapphire? or I have been advised to wear blue sapphire.
March 15th, 2007 at 4:53 am
Namaskar Visti ji, I have listened your lecture on kalasarpa and tried to match it with my horoscope. I have ketu in my lagna which is aquarius and rah is with sat in leo. My jupiter is in 6th house in cancer along with mer and My venus is along with sun in 5th house in gemini. How would i decide which mahavidya is good for me. The first two points as said by you match the horoscope i.e planets in lagna and planets together with one of the nodes. If i am not wrong my Jup is in 6th house which is not a good house and my venus is 15 deg from sun which nearly makes it to combustion. Please advice which one is good. And where can i get the mantras for these 9 mahavidyas.
March 15th, 2007 at 6:26 am
Dear Visti,
Continuining on my doubt…
Thanks for your reply. I do appreciate the fact that the KSY/KAY, if gets formed in the natal chart, then it should be broaken as the natal chart is the chart of prarabdha with which we are born.
But my doubt was, if there is no KSY/KAY in D-1, but that happens in some D-charts, what should be interpreted and what should be done ?
In the example given, D-1 does not have any KSY/KAY but D-9 has. In this situation, what are the implications and what should be done to break it ?
Your kind guidance is requested.
Vijay Kumar
March 15th, 2007 at 6:29 am
Dear Visti ji,
Your study of the subject is amazing. Listening to your lessons on curses.
My DOB is 14.08.1959, Time - 1330 hrs, Place - Bhopal (MP)India.
Would you kindly throw some light on my horoscope and pl suggest remedy.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Hi Asha and Bharat, Namaskar.
Asha
I don’t believe your marriage suffered due to the curse, rather weaknesses were the cause of this.
Gayatri mantra is the key for you, and further being of service to elders, priests and offering support to children is important as this is a curse of Brahmin. Specifically installing a Shiva Linga in a temple is the best remedy I can advise for you for a Brahmin Shaapa in Lagna.
Bharat
The mind is very important for Mahavidya selection and we should prefer that graha who is best placed from the Moon.
Here the selection methodology is closely linked to the chandra yogas.
1. See which planets are lording the Moons sign.
2. See which are joining the 1st, 7th, 2nd, 12th, 6th or 8th from the Moon sign.
Among these you must choose the Mahavidya… So where is your Moon from Jupiter and Venus?
As for mantras, some authors of SJC have published some mantras for Kali and Tara on their websites, but their sites seem to be very moody which makes the mantras unavailable. But, it should be born in mind that the BEST way to receive a mantra is from a person who is a Mahavidya Sadhaka. Otherwise start with the Nama-mantra for the mahavidya, i.e. “Om (name) Namah”. Later the Mother will lead you to a propper sadhaka. Keep in mind the restrictions i mentioned in the lecture.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:23 am
Dear Vijay and Sanjeev, Namaskar.
Vijay
In such cases we will advise very simple advise such as wearing a gemstone or associating with a certain person to ensure the best results. Admittedly the KSY/KAY in say Navamsa is quite important as it can show problems in getting married. A simple remedy such as visiting the Shankaracharya or a Guru of high stature and asking for the blessing to get married would suffice.
Sanjeev
I do not wanto encourage people to use the discussion boards to ask for chart readings, instead i would refer them to my consultations-page for this.
Nevertheless, I would say that the placement of Ketu in the fifth and aspected by Rahu and Mars is a reason for concern. Mainly because this is a curse of Sadhu and it can block your progress in your profession (ketu in fifth and rahu in tenth from Moon) and give worries related to children (fifth house).
To time exactly when this would be prominent we would need to rectify the D60 chart, but with the current time Jupiters placement in the D60 can give the issues from 1998 onwards. This is subject to change based on the D60.
I would give two remedies in such a case.
1. Worship Ganesha always. Ganesha will help you progress in your profession and life and this is important when planets are in the fifth house, otherwise the punya gets delayed. This is to be begun from a Wednesday morning.
2. The Vishnu Gayatri is the way out of the curse. The mantra is from the Rg Veda and begins with: “Tad Vishno Paramam Padam…”. This should be begun from a Thursday morning.
I hope this helps.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 15th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Dear Visti,
Many thanks for clearing my doubts. I have 2 more doubts as follows :
01.
You mentioned to Bharat that Om (name) Namah may be the starting point of any mahavidya worship, if we don’t have any sadhaka at hand to give the mantra. Since, mantras are very sensitive, will it be possible to indicate names to be used in this mantra for all das-mahavidyas for general guidance to all the readers.
Though, it is too much to bother you, but this being a sensitive point, it does require your approval.
Example, For Kamalatimaka, we might say Kamlatimaka/Kamlatmike/Kamala etc. Pl pardon me for my ignorance on this point and guide.
02.
You mentioned in your lecture that Namahshivaya mantra is different than Shivaynamah. How is it different in its plane where it works ?
Thanks,
Vijay Kumar
March 15th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Visti ji, My moon is in saggitarius so it makes venus to be 7th from moon and jupiter to be 8th from moon. I read one of your other posts where the difference is stated between sarpa and amrita. I guess mine is kalamrita yoga.
my birth chart is
lagna + Ketu - Aquarius
mar - taurus
sun + ven - Gemini
Jup + Mer - Cancer
Sat + Rah - Leo
Moon - Saggitarius
Sincerely, Bharat
March 15th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
हरे राम कृष्ण
Dear Bharat,
Namaskar,
If I can help you here:
Mo being in Sagg, with Aqu lagna, means that it is not KAY/KSY at all,as Moon is not between Ra/Ke axis.
Rather there is Grah Mallika Yog, which is not so much restrictive as KSY, however complete birth details will be helpful.
To understand about KSY/KAY, please read Visti’s book or read the following link where Visti and I have discussed about it: http://www.srigaruda.com/books/
Hope this helps
Regards
Sharat
March 15th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Sharat ji, Thank you for pointing out the GMY. Basically i am a beginner and still experiencing things. My DOB 09-07-1979, 22:00 Hrs IST, Loharu, India. I am not sure but i was very curious to remedy it as none of my plans are working. Everything comes to 70% and cannot move any forward. It looks as if all doors are closed for whatever i plan after 70% of work. Where can i get more information about GMY.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:08 am
Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Bharat,
Namaskar,
This is Grah Mallika yoga where 8 planets( Moon is left out) are all lined up in a restrictive serp like yog. This effects all the starts you make as the ‘end of the yoga’is in 7H with Sun conjunct with Rahu and this blocks all your results from fructifying.
With Ketu in lagna,Ganesh worship is a must to begin with and then do worship of Shiva form as Lord Daskshinamurty.
Visti will correct me if I am wrong as I too have been learning from him and Sanjay ji’s teachings.
Hope this helps
Regards
Sharat
March 16th, 2007 at 4:46 am
Thank you sharat ji for your points. I guess the curse on top of GMY is making things really hard.
Visti ji, Namaskar
Can you please help me out in unlocking this grah mallika yoga. Is there any lecture of yours on grah mallika yoga where i can understand more about it.
Sincerely, Bharat
March 16th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Respected Visti Ji
Just a comment for the Horoscope of Asha Ji, above. Just happened to notice that sun is in MKS and there are three malefics aspecting the bhava Leo and that is the 7th house. from 1973 to 1984 Leo and capricorn dasas ran in sucession and i believe the native could have seen some suffering related to that 7th house.
Visti ji, Since 7th lord is in MKS and also in 12th house we could not help there, Also Ve the karaka for the 7th house is cojoined in the 12th house and that cant be used, so do you think that tatwa level Luxmi worship should be advised in this case.
Regards
Tarun
March 16th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Dear Vijay, Bharat and Sharat Namaskar.
Vijay
The names I gave in the recording are specific to this. In fact when I answered the question on the list I thought I was repeating myself. Go through the recording again.
Bharat and Sharat
Graha Malika Yoga does occur and both the starting and ending points are important. Here they are both kendras which show good results, but we see that the ending point in the seventh house is formed by Rahu and Saturn and this in turn causes a very strong Sarpa Yoga… Bharat has very big dreams!.. and they are not easy to satisfy even after all the hard work. As a result there is a risk of Bharat going out of his way to attain something which will end up giving him a dent on his reputation as this yoga happens in the tenth from arudha lagna. So this should be the warning.
Now, the dispositor of this yoga is the Sun and he is the Atmakaraka in the fifth house. The remedy is to meditate and pray to Shiva through which he will attain his desire. So put a picture of Shiva with his wife in front of you and worship him with the panchakshari mantra. This should do the trick.
Yes Sharat, this will also remedy the curse, and you must keep in mind that Sun is AK in the fifth house and hence the specific remedy for panchakshari, shiva, etc.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 16th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Dear Tarun, Namaskar.
For MKS we advise the aditya of the karaka of the house wherein the MKS happens. I.e. for Sun in twelfth it should be Varuna-aditya.
Rest looks good. Nice interpretation.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 16th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Thank you visti ji. I shall go by your suggestion. I will do the panchakshari mantra to please lord shiva. I hope the mantra “Om hrim namah shivaya” guides me further. I want to make use of the eclipse so is it good if i keep on chanting during the complete eclipse period and a count of 108/1008 times a day.
Sincerely
Bharat
March 16th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Namaste Vistiji:
My friend has a son who is schizophrenic. His is not quite a Kal Sarpa Yoga since Saturn is outside of the Rahu/Ketu axis. However, Venus is lagna lord and debillitated in 12th house and hemmed in by Sun and Mars and then Parivartana yoga with 12th lord in 1st house with Ketu.
Can you kindly suggest some remedy? I’m thinking that the Venus should be strengthened - yes?
DOB: October 8, 1966
Time: 8.01 am
Place: Long Beach, CA USA
Thank you for your suggestions.
Namaskar,
Jill
March 17th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Dear Jill, Namaskar
So far the best class or workshop on remedies that I can recommend is the JEEVA course (http://www.jiva.us/) which is taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath.
Otherwise I will be teaching what has been personally taught to me by Sanjayji through the tradition.
In the chart you gave there need not be a kala sarpa/amrita yoga to cause the particular problem. In fact if you see that same Venus that you mentioned, its junction with Sun and ASPECT of retrograde Saturn makes up for a tough curse of spouse to experience.
The remedy is as you have said through the placement of Venus. Here Mercury is the dispositor in the lagna and hence we can advise worship of Sri Vyasadeva.
If you see this site: http://srijagannath.org/spirit/mrtyunjaya.htm
You will find such an appropriate mantra for Vyasadeva who will bless the native and child with good health and intelligence. But, that retrograde Saturn is a tough cookie to crack I must admit. Such curses don’t go away, but they can be minimized.
I hope this helps.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Respected Guru Ji
Thanks for that tip on MKS remedy. So the Aditya mantra would be om ghrinih varunaditya or Om ghrini Varunaya namah? Also another aspect of the remedies that i would like to understand is that what remedy to give if the planet is debilitated in the chart,
Also I present here a case study on the remedies that were prescribed to a native by Nadi readers in hyderabad. Those remedies have wonderfully worked for the native. maybe there is some learnings from the same.
I would like to have comments from you on the same.
birth details
5 Nov 1974, 18:07:03, Ludhiana India.
Taurus Lagna and sun debilitated in the 6th house. The natives mother has constat problems with high blood pressure . Also her domestic happiness has constant issues. Venus is in MKS in the 6th house and the native suffered a terrible accident in 1986. (Li Mahadasa. Taurus Antardasa gave the accident Ma is cursing planet and 12th lord (Hospitalization), She was in terrible state all along the Ta antardasa plastered to almost the complete body all from belly down. There was little hope that she could walk again ever. Somehow Jupiter in 10th house is aspecting and due to her father’s efforts and constant fighting she recovered and was able to come to normal state. Thankfully enough the phase has passed. Also notice that Me the 5th lord joins the curse and there is a secondary curse on him too. The native could not beget a child even after 8 years of marriage mainly because of initimacy issues with the spouse curse on venus and 12th/7th (Ma) lord joins the curse.
Now the native went to Nadi reader in Hyderabad and they advised the following remedies.
1. On sankat Chauth (Chaturthi) she was advised to go to Ganesh Temple and do 5 kinds of abhishekam coconut milk, honey, sandal, ghee and milk. archana with 5 lamps. 32 times parikrama. same day donate books and clothes and sweets to a child below 10years ( curse of mercury?).
2. 10th day from amavasya( That means Dasmi) archana of a tulsi Mala to Vishnu Temple. (Mercury?) but why the tithi of Dasmi?
3. shani abhiskam on saturday with coconut milk, til oil, and milk. 8 parikramas. Sani is afflicting the moon. So i think that could be reason for that. And also Sani is Karaka for the 6th house where the curse is.
This is the most wierd one and I cant figure that one out.
4. On 11 sundays consecutively go to a Durga Temple in rahu Kalam and offer a Garland of 32 lemons. Light 11 lamps and do the parikrama 11 times. Also light lamps to the Navagraha after doing this pooja and Parikrama.
I could not understand that one. Rahu is in Scorpio and as we prescribe the Kalachakra remedies we would have asked for Durga worship on a Tuesday (Mars rules the Vara where rahu is placed), why sunday? Clearly the remedy is for rahu’s affliction to the 7th house. Durga diety and also rahu Kalam but the Vara of Sunday eludes me. are we missing something here?
And what could be the significance of the numbers in all these remedies.
32 parikramas of sri ganesha.
11 Parikramas of Ma Durga with 11 lamps.
32 Lemons in the garland. That could be attributed to the 32 names of Ma durga. and lemons are representing the heads (Mundas) thus we are worshipping Ma in the form of Chamundi I think in this case.
I just thought that i would post this information that I have and that could help us do some more research and knowledge of all.
Hope to hear your thoughts and comments on that
Your shishya
Tarun
March 17th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
respected Guru Ji
Correction. the 10th day from the Amavasya does not equate to Dasami necessarily as the tithis can be more than 1 day or less. so it seems that there is some other logic. 10th house lord is rahu and he rules amavasya. And 10th karaka is Mercury and we are worshipping Vishnu with the tulsi Mala. Could not think of anything else…
Waiting for your comments
Tarun
March 18th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
|| Hare Rama Krushna ||
Namaste Vistiji,
This was an excellent lecture and very timely, too! Can’t wait for
the lecture on Badhaka remedies.
I have one question regarding determination of the curse that would
end up giving most suffering. If in a chart we have two benefics which
are conjoined each other and are afflicted by two or more planets
then how do we determine which benefic will end up giving more
suffering to the native? For example, Jupiter and Venus conjoined
in a bhava and afflicted by graha drishti of Mars and Saturn. Here,
should we just assume that curse of Jupiter will act as primary curse and
will give more suffering given that Jupiter is a higher benefic?
Or should we take the longitude of the benefics into consideration to
determine which curse will end up giving the most suffering and
hence should be remedied first?
Thank you.
May Sri Vishnu bless us all,
Reema.
March 18th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Dear Visti,
Thanks for giving a clear lecture on remedies. I have really learnt a lot.
I would like to get clarifications for a couple of questions that I have:
- While determining the intensity of a curse, do we consider the status of a
malefic causing the curse? For example, (dob:7-Sep-1958, tob:6-15am, pob: Bangalore),
Mars is involved in more than one curse. However, Mars is a yogakaraka sitting in
a Kendra and exalted in Navamsa. My question is, whether mars is till should
be considered as contributing the curse?
- Should we look at the proxymity of planets when in same Rasi. In the above
example thous Mars and Moon are in same Rasi, they are more than 20 degrees
away. Is the curse as severe as say when they are less than 12 degrees apart?
Looking for your answers.
Thanks,
Krishna
March 19th, 2007 at 6:51 am
Dear Reema Ji,Namaskar.
With the permission of Guru Ji let me pen down the information for your clarification request. As per Guru Ji’s dictum first you have to consider the order of benefic planets only. The primary curse will be from the most benefic as you have written. At the same time we have to use our intuition (to me it is Guru Ji’s blessings) to arrive at correct conclusion as it was discussed in the case of Hitler’s chart. Priest was hurt and his wife cursed, this way the main curse due priest was triggered by wife’s sapa.
With respects to Guru ji.
Sincerely, S.Dheenadayalan
March 19th, 2007 at 11:18 am
Dear Visti ji,
In your lecture on Remedies for Curses I need the following clarifications :
A)Guru of the lord of the sign in which curse is
A.1)What is the Vaishnav Guru, other than Dattatreya for Mercury ?
A.2)What is the Guru for Jupiter ?
A.3)What are the 9 Mahavidyas and how do we arrive at them for Moon ?
A.4)What are the 4 Vedamurtis and how do we arrive at them for Ketu ?
B)What is the Pratyadidevta for Saturn ?
C)Is the Dev for Lagna the Gayatri that we know of ? You mentioned Bramha Gayatri - what is that ?
D)What is Vishnu Gayatri Mantra ?
E) Are there various Gauatri mantras ? How many ? What are they ?
Sorry to put so many questions but I believe if I get the answers of all these, my understanding for Curses and Remedy would be fucntional. I am marching ahead fast to accept you as my Guru.
Regards.
March 19th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
With Rahu and Ketu always opposite to each other,
the chances of them getting cursed is always higher than
other planets. Are Ketu and Rahu curses more commonly seen ?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Sanjeev,
Namaskar,
If I may answer your Qs and I am sure Guru Visti will correct me.
A.Guru of the Lord of the sign is chosen as per the scheme already given
by Visti. It may not be the sign where the curse is, if its lord is also
involved in the curse.
A1.Guru Vyasdeva
A2.Guru Brihaspati
A3.You need to read about the Mahavidyas from VRA by Guru Sanjay Rath
and his paper on the same which is in the files section of the Sohamsa
Group. This forum will not be appropriate to write about their details.
A4.A discussion on Vedmurti is on this website, if you browse the
articles section
B.Lord Narayana
C.Dharma Gayatri, refers to the Vishnu avtar- Vamana, Ref to Rig Veda
1.22.18
D.Vishnu Gayatri is from Rig Veda 1.22.20. Please refer to it.
Both above Gayatri’s can be easily seen from Rig Veda and I would need
Visti’s permission for the same to be listed on public forum as I
know he prefers not to do the same.
E.There are many Gayatri chhandas, please refer to VRA if you are keen
to learn some more.
All the best.
Regards
Sharat
March 20th, 2007 at 3:44 am
Dear Sharat,
Namaskar.
Thanks for the answers.
If you could also comment on the second query I posted.
Regards
Sanjeev
March 20th, 2007 at 5:18 am
OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA
Dear Guru ji, Namaskar
Dear Sharat ji with Guru JI’s permission let me pen down as I have learned the Priatyadidevata for Saturn is Kalagni.
A4)ctoe] Regarding Gayatri, my personal feeling in expressing our thoughts should be in a simpler way as Guru ji and Parama Guru Ji do.
My understanding is as follows:
b) Gayatri is not the name of any mantra. Gayatri is Chanda. Savitur Mantra in Gayatri Chanda is generally known as Gayatri mantra and all the mantras in Gayatri Chanda is called as Gayatri mantra of respective deities.
The term respective deities means, Almost all deities have Gayatri mantra, means too many Gayatri..
c) To my novice knowledge if Savitur mantra is recited in gayatri chand just before Sun rise it is Bramha Gayatri, if at noon Vishnu Gayatri, at Sunset SivaGayatri and at mid night Kali Gayatri. This is like the same person known as father to his children, son to his father, Husband to his wife and brother to his co-born.
With respects to Guru Ji.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:25 am
Dear Sisya dheena ji, Namaskar.
Thanks for your views.
I think what Guruji said in his lecture for
Pratyadideve for Saturn was - Visnhu-Narain -
Mercury is more of Vishnu and Saturn is more of Narayan and so what
Sharat ji wrote is apt as per Parashar listing.
Your views on Gayatri is interesting, conceptually.
regards
sanjeev
March 20th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Dheena,
I understand what you are saying about the Gaytari chanting as per the
Sun position, which is right.
I have mentioned the specific gayatri chhandas of Vishnuji, as they are
chanted for specific purpose of Vishnu worship.
Regarding Pratyadi devta for Saturn, I have read/heard differing names:
Sanjay ji specifically mentions Lord Brahma Prajapati, Visti has mentioned
Narayana,and one of Rafal’s papers mentions Kalagni/Kali as well.
Sanjay ji also mentions Indra as Pratyadi devta for Shukra,while Laxmi
is mentioned by others and for Mars he mentions Aditya.
Perhaps Guru Visti will clarify and may be we can have an updated list
of Adi and Pratyadi devtas.
Regards
Sharat
March 20th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Dear Tarun, Reema, Krishna, Namaskar
Tarun
I didn’t forget you. Its an excellent case study of which EXACT remedy to give for certain afflictions. I will be answering this query in detail soon.
Reema
Keep in mind that no matter which of the two planets is more afflicted, the remedy would stay the same.
Krishna
Yes we do consider the status of the malefic planet. It will tell us exactly how bad the curse will be. Take Sri Ramas chart and you will see how an exalted yogakaraka Mars in his curse made him go to war for his wife.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Dear Sanjeev, Sharat and Dheena, Namaskar
Here are my answers and commentary on the same.
A)Guru of the lord of the sign in which curse is
A.1)What is the Vaishnav Guru, other than Dattatreya for Mercury ?
Answer: Vyasa is commonly accepted.
A.2)What is the Guru for Jupiter ?
Answer: Brhaspati. I believe i have mentioned these by name in the recording.
A.3)What are the 9 Mahavidyas and how do we arrive at them for Moon ?
Answer: I have also mentioned these in the recording. Here i will mention them with the names one can do Nama japa of. Beginning from the Sun and ending with Ketu they are:
Matangi, Bhuvanesvari, Bagaladevi, Parasundari (Tripurasundari or Shodasi are other forms), Tara, Kamalatmika, Dakshniakali (Kali), Chinnamasta and Dhoomavati
A.4)What are the 4 Vedamurtis and how do we arrive at them for Ketu ?
Answer: There are infact five vedamurtis where the fifth one is Sarvaveda, i.e. all the vedas. Based on the tatva of the planet Ketu is joined, or if none then the sign placement the murtis are:
Agni: Hanumukha (Atharvaveda - Hanuman)
Vayu: Hayamukha (Yajurveda - Hayagreeva)
Akasha: Gajamukha (Sarvaveda - Ganesha)
Prthvi: Ajamukha (Samaveda - Shiva as Ajaikapada)
Jala: Nandimukha or Gomukha (Rgveda - Nandi, the one who upholds Dharma/Shiva)
B)What is the Pratyadidevta for Saturn ?
Answer: Pt. Sanjay Rath presented during the Delhi ‘06 conference that Kalagni is the Prayadidevata whilst Brahmaa is the Adhidevata. This is fully acceptable and this is why Rudra worship is advised for Saturn at time, especially in matters of health. Brahmaa (note long ‘a’ is Prajapati Brahmaa whereas short ‘a’ refers to the Brahman or actual creator of Brahmaa) as Prajapati is the Adhidevata of Saturn and this is also what Parasara says. However, Parasara advises us to worship Saturn as Narayana/Vishnu and when in doubt we should follow the advise of Parasara and Jaimini who both ask us to worship Narayana to appease Saturn. For appeasing of Saturn in curses i advise Narayana.
C)Is the Dev for Lagna the Gayatri that we know of ? You mentioned Bramha Gayatri - what is that ?
Answer: Brahma Gayatri is the mantra given at the Upanayana ceremony. Gayatri itself is a rhythm/chandah and there are many mantras in this chandah. Take ‘Om Namo Narayanaya’.. its in Gayatri Chandah.
Also Gayatri refers to the four gandas or junctions of the day, namely sunrise, midday, sunset and midnight. It is said that worship during these times give us a direct link/connection with God and are very auspicious time to worship, but inauspicious to start new activities as they are times of transformation.
The Savitur Gayatri is NEVER recited at night and this is forbidden. However the three sandhyas of sunrise, midday and sunset are the times for the sandhyavandana which is performed by those who have received the sacred thread… Atleast this is when they are supposed to do it.
D)What is Vishnu Gayatri Mantra ?
Answer: read Rgveda. Sharat has also given a few options from the same.
E) Are there various Gauatri mantras ? How many ? What are they ?
Sorry to put so many questions but I believe if I get the answers of all these, my understanding for Curses and Remedy would be functional. I am marching ahead fast to accept you as my Guru.
Answer: No marching here, we need ahimsa (non violence) to learn the Veda and Jyotish is an Anga of the same Veda (refer Prasna Marga). And anyway we have lots of time to learn.
As for Guru, I am a teacher of Sri Jagannath Center and am bound by my vicinity to accept students. Select a Guru in your vicinity based on the list and location given at this site: http://srijagannath.org/parampara/jyotishguru.htm
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:56 am
Dear Visti ji,
“Hare Rama Krishna”
“What a smooth lecture on kala sarpa/amrita yoga!” It gave a clear piture for beginner to grab the concept.
Could you please shed some light on how the “kaala sarpa yoga” differs from the “sarpa yoga”. From your lecture I got the understanding of “kalasarpa yoga” but about the “sarpa yoga” I read in the book “Vedic Remedies” by Guru Sanjay Rath, that this yoga is caused by the placement of malefics in kendras.
What will be the general effects of it and how to give remedies for it.
Does it matter that one of the malefic is yogkarka or not?
In my own chart I do have 3 malefics in kendras,
Lagna is Tula with Rahu in it,
ke in 7th house,
Sat in 10th house,
Mo in 5th
Ju(R) in 6th,
Ma in 9th,
Su in 12th
Me(R) 12th
There is parivertana in 10th and 5th Lord i,e Mo and Sa.
Do you think that this parivertana to some extent modifies the
“sarpa yoga”.
Any suggestion for Remedies
With regards
March 21st, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Dear Sanjay Mehta, Namaskar
Sarpa Yoga causes intense desires and almost impossible dreams to fulfil if it is complete. It also risks giving the person association with criminals and cruel people. For dual signs this can give terrible handicaps if the lagna isn’t strong. Its not an easy yoga at all.
The lordship of these malefics in kendra show WHAT is the purpose of the ’sarpa’… i.e. is it to bring money, wealth, etc.
The relieving factor is a benefic in kendra who should be strengthened/worshiped. If none then there is a Dattatreya mantra advised to protect the native. Parivartana and other yogas will always modify the yogas but its still sarpa yoga.
My advise is to you is to recite the Dattatreya Raksha mantra given in Vedic Remedies in Astrology .
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:01 am
Namaskar Guru Vistiji,
My under query is regarding the following chart which is combination of KSY/KAY, curse and badhka
I am giving details of one chart DOB 22 June 2002 DOT 6:40PM Place Gurgaon, Haryana, India
Lagna Scorpio, chandra and ketu in lagna, shani and rahu and
budh in 7th house, guru and mangal and surya in 8th house, shukra
in 9th house. Now for this chart what remedy should be given?
chandra is neech and cursed with ketu and aspected by rahu and shani,
budh is also under curse cojoined shani,rahu
guru in 8th house
shukra in badhka sthana 9th house for scorpio lagna
Can you please write what remedy should pe given here for removing KSY/KAY effects ?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Dear Suneet, Namaskar
Either Bhuvanesvari or Tripura is fine in such a case. Bhuvanesvari would probably be pertinent.
Yours sincerely, Visti
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pm
Namaskar Visti ji,
I am trying to do the panchakshari mantra as suggested by you. I am getting hurdles in between i.e situation not letting me continue what i am trying to do. Can i apply any external energy like gems to make sure i stick to what i am supposed to do with out getting a second thought in my mind. Because a couple of days the situation is trying to divert my mind and creating worries in some other part of life. Is there any thing like we can get help from external energy to make sure we are not out of path. It always happens like this with me when i try to concentrate. Any suggestion for any kind of gem if required or is it just the sarpa which is becoming obstacle again. I give my details again 9-jul-79, 22:00 IST, Loharu, India. Please help as i am very desperate to control the sarpa.
By the way i had used blue sapphire and diamond last year and recently i removed thinking they are doing bad to me.
Sincerely
Bharat
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:47 pm
Dear Bharat
Your Shiva mantra is supposed to solve your whole life and not just parts of it. Make sure you worship Ganesha before begining the shiv a mantra.
Heres some Ganesha upadesa. Shashi(mind/moon) - Ankusha (goad/control/supression) mantra: sashyanka namah shivaaya| Do this for atleast 2 malas before reciting the mantra.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 23rd, 2007 at 7:55 am
Dear Bharat,
Just a comment though, I seem to remember that in the VRY book in the mantra shastra part Pt. Rath has advised a method of selecting aksharas on the name of the devotee. In my case and also in your case our name is of 3 aksharas bh - ra - ta/ Ta ru na and that make s 3 + 5(from the mantra) = 8 and he has advised strictly against it. thats why i usually take the shadakshari mantras and avoid panchakshari mantras.
Maybe Guru Ji can comment on the same
With warm regards
Tarun Garg
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 am
Dear Visti,
I have come across a case of KSY : Male : 18-6-1977, 0815 Hrs IST, Bombay (18N58, 72E50).
This person has continued losses in business which he is doing with his father. He is yet un-married, far from any settlement.
KSY yoga exist in the chart involving 3/9th house with Saturn in Lagna, Jupiter in 11th house (badhaka house) and Venus in 10H. There is a noticeable kalatrashapa built by the association of Mars and Saturn in 10th house.
I feel that due to Kalatra shapa, the marriage is eluding. Since, this shrapa happens in 10th house, profession is on toss. On the top of it the cursed planet Venus is debilitated both in D-9 and D-10. Thus, I feel this person is handicapped in both areas of profession and marriage mainly due to this curse.
How to proceed to break this KSY, more so when there is a significant curse as well. Should the Saturn be propitiated as it associates with Lagna or Venus which is the most benefic planet placed in Kendra (10th house) and visibly shows the problem areas in profession and marriage ?
Please help me to understand more on this chart, as I am not able to proceed further.
Thanks,
Vijay Kumar
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:06 pm
Dear Tarun and Vijay, Namaskar.
Tarun
You will also find in VRA that this doesn’t apply to Prasiddha mantras. Namah Shivaaya is a prasiddha mantra.
Vijay
Now this is surely a predicament. He has Saturn on his lagna, aspecting arudha lagna and upapada… a bachelor is born. Now because there are planets joining Upapada and Arudha lagna, this should now have been a problem at all, yet because Saturn has had his dasa since his 19th year of age and is still running we have a problem.
Now, if Venus is auspicious then marriage is supposed to happen between 12-32 years of age. Here the Darakaraka (marriage/spouse) is in MKS (6th) from Venus, whilst the seventh lord Saturn is in inimical house (4th-pachakadi sambandha) from Venus.
The next period is that from Jupiter from 33-50 years of age. Jupiter aspects the seventh, gives argala to karaka Venus, labhaargala to seventh lord Saturn, but is placed in MKS (9th) from Darakaraka Rahu. This is an issue but hopefully Jupiters dristi on Rahu will lead towards marriage.
To make Saturn auspicious advise him to go on pilgrimage (tenth house-upapada) to visit the Shankaracharya (Guru/Surya removes all dosha from nodes and Saturn). Here he should ask for the blessing to marry. In addition a Mantra for Sri Tara would help towards breaking the Kala Sarpa Yoga.
Heres another example:
Date: July 3, 1958
Time: 9:33:40 am
Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 12 E 35′ 00″, 55 N 40′ 00″
In this chart the darakaraka is Mercury and Venus gives it Argala from the eleventh therefrom. There are no inimical placements here. But the Argala of Venus is blocked by the Atmakaraka (Jupiter) showing that some important life-experiences will make the person avoid marriage between 12-32. The seventh lords are either Saturn or Rahu. Whilst Venus aspects Saturn by graha dristi and promotes relationships during its period, Rahu is placed in MKS (6th) from Venus. The native didn’t marry during the entire Venus naisargika dasa from 12-32 years of age.
So why was Rahu more dominant than Saturn in such a case?.. look at the twelfth house and tell me the answer.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:45 am
Dear Visti,
Thanks for your illuminating reply. I have appreciated the use of naisargik dasha and pachakadi sambandha.
In the example case, you asked, why Rahu was more dominant in denying the marriage. My feeling is that out of Saturn and Rahu as 7th lord, Rahu falls in 7th to Upapada lagna, thus it became dominant to block the marriege in addition to being in MKS from Venus (karaka). Am I on the right track ?
May I examine the similar approach to examine the naisargik dasha on the chart details given by me earlier at sl. No. 7 (18-08-1978, 0326Hrs IST, Allahabad).
In this chart, let me attempt to examine, if the native would marry in the naisargik dasha age of 12-32 years as follows.
01.
I observe that Saturn aspects by sign aspect to arudha (Aries), by graha and sign aspect to Upapada (Libra) and confers argala to lagna. This is similar to the earlier case and can we say, that the marriage is too difficult for her. However, Lagna is occupied by exalted Jupiter aspecting 7H. Arudha lord is conjunct with Karaka-Venus which is Upapada lord as well, though weak by debilitation.
With this, can we say that the marriage seems to be promised, though with difficulty.
02.
There is no planet in 4th and 6th to Venus. Darakaraka-Sun gets placed in 12th house to Venus and works as temporal karaka to Venus (though Sun is natural Vedhka to Venus as well ?). Similarly, 7th lord Saturn also gets placed in 12th to Saturn thus acts as strong karaka.
With this intent, can we say that the native may get married in naisargik Venus dasha age of 12-32 years. Here, Saturn strongly
works as the karaka of Venus; gets conjunct with DK-Sun and gives argala to Lagna. Can we say that Saturn bhukti in Venus dasha would get her married ?
03.
Doubts :
# What are the implications of Venus placed in MKS from AL ?
# What are the implications of 7th lord Saturn weak in Sun’s sign and inimical to Darakaraka-SUN ? Would it work to deny the marriage ?
# How does Sun (DK also) behave in 12th house to Venus for marital matters ?
# In order to smoothen the marriage and life thereafter, what shoul be strengthened or propitiated ?
Thanks for your continued support.
Vijay Kumar
March 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
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Dear Vijay,
My apologies if I am seen to be intruding into your conversation with Visti.
My question is why must this jataka (18/08/1978, 0326 IST, Allahabad)force you so strongly to search for the real truth that is hidden among the various dictums/principles of Jyotisa Shastra? You have published extensively on Jaimini sutras in the Astrological Magazine, are quite learned to my understanding and yet, in recent posts, it has always come back to this particular chart and the many questions that remain unanswered. A look at this chart tells me that Guru is the 9th lord in Karka lagna and thus the impact of father is very high indeed. Anyway, let me volunteer to answer some of your questions on the analysis given by you in this forum.
01. Generally we look to see how well placed Venus or Jupiter is in navamsa when judging the suitable naisargika dasa for marriage. In this chart, Shukra is in 12th to navamsa lagna (in MKS from 7th house) while Guru is in navamsa lagna, that too vargottama. Thus, marriage appears more likely in Guru naisargika dasa (32 - 50 years of age). Sarbani has done some research in this and found that the antardasa of the DK often gives marriage so based on this research, I would say that marriage is quite likely in Guru naisargika dasa - Sun antardasa. During this time, transit Guru is in Meena rasi aspecting the 2nd from UL which further supports this observation.
02. Answered in 01 above.
03. From personal experience, I have seen that 7th lord Saturn in 2nd house (= second marriage) gives two marriages provided that the second lord is weak. Here the saving grace is that Sun as the second lord is strong in this chart.
To smoothen the marriage that is promised by Guru, it is essential to remedy first the patnishaapa in the chart. I am sure that Visti should have pointed this out earlier and given remedies for the same.
After marriage, there’s nothing like the Satyanarayana vratam done every Pournimasya.
best regards
Hari
March 25th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
Dear Hari,
Thanks for your kind words. I do not have any experience in naisargik dasa delineation that is the reason, I am learning it now. I do not think that repeating a chart for observations under new principles does have a bar. We keep looking to our own charts all across our life and yet find it showing a new flavour with the new principles at hand.
In case, if you find it handy, please refer me more sources to understand naisargik dasha. I am not aware about Sarbani’s research on DK. Where do I find the link ?
I have my sincere thanks for your observations on this chart. If you have more to say on this chart or suggest me something more, you may use my e-mail id : v_kumar@cdotb.ernet.in, as further discussions on this chart between us on this site link would seem flooding it where Q&A on KSY etc would be more meaningful.
Thanks, Vijay Kumar
March 26th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Dear Hari and Vijay, Namaskar.
Speak as much as you like about the charts and all. People reading can only benefit and there should be no restrictions to knowledge.
Hari
I have been taught this approach, reg. Navamsa as well from Freedom, but I have a very stubborn approach to Jyotish, namely that if something as obvious as a delay in marriage is not confirmed in the Rasi chart, then don’t look for the details in Navamsa. And Sanjayji has supported this opinion and in Delhi 2005 he gave us some hints as to see which events will happen early or late. Particularly for Naisargika Dasa he advised me to check the relationship between Darakaraka and Venus for marriage in the dasa of Venus.
There is also a lot to study in this regard but essentially it deals with analyzing the 12th, 9th and 7th houses besides the charakarakas and other relationships.
Vijay
Heres an interesting dictum: ANY planet obstructs marriage if placed in the twelfth house. Now go through the Vara chakra lessons and learn how to remove this obstruction and which planet will do it! Your answer will be there.
Yours sincerely, Visti
March 26th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
Dear Visti,
Thanks for allowing me to deliberate and get nearer to the answer regarding the deadlock of marriage fixation in the chart referred (18-08-1978, 0326 Hrs IST, Allahabad).
Taking cue from the hint you have given, I find the following 2 combinations looking from Upapada.
01.
Upapada lord Venus is placed in 12th house from it thus marriage gets blocked by Venus itself. If this alone is considered than
Venus has no 6, subtracting from 9 gives me 3 meaning Jupiter.
Since, Jupiter is exalted in Lagna aspecting 7th and 9th house, is exalted in D-9 Lagna also; it may indicate the remedy for removing the obstruction of marriage by correcting the negativities of Venus.
02.
Venus, Mars and Rahu collectively fall in the 12th house from Upapada causing obsrtuction in marriage. The planetary number totals to 6+9+4=19 which results to 1 after expunging the multiples of 9. Subtracting this number from 9, I get 8 meaning Saturn which is the 7th lord itself.
However, I do not find Saturn to be very strongly placed in D-1, thus not sure if remedy lies here. But, Saturn falls in 5th house from AK in D-9, thus Saturn may be resorted for worship and may be more suitable as it falls from D-9 lagna as well.
Do you approve this finding or I am missing something yet more important !
Thus, with my limited awareness, I am able to rest upon Jupiter and/or Saturn to break the deadlock in marriage fixation.
If worship of Jupiter/Saturn is the solution, how to approach the worship.
Your kind advice is requested.
Vijay Kumar
March 26th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Typo to the message..54
The para towards the end reads like this :
However, I do not find Saturn to be very strongly placed in D-1, thus not sure if remedy lies here. But, Saturn falls in 5th house from AK in D-9, thus Saturn may be resorted for worship and may be more suitable as it falls in 12th house from D-9 lagna as well.
Sorry for the mistake by oversight.
Regards,
Vijay Kumar
March 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
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Dear Visti and Vijay, namaste
Vijay,
Sanjay has written an article on naisargika dasa principles and its calculations and I have written an article on the same with reference to Sri Lahiri Mahasaya’s chart. Both are published in the Jyotish Digest but the article by Sanjay should be available in his website srath.com. The reference to Sarbani’s research is from a personal conversation with her. The classical reference for naisargika dasa is of course in Varahamihira’s Brihat Jataka. Bear in mind that the great Varahamihira used only two dasas: Moola and naisargika dasa.
Visti,
In Singapore, Sanjay gave a masterclass on timing marriage using naisargika dasa. He took several blind charts and always identified the correct dasa-antardasa in which the marriage happened. From that class, I learnt that he always checks the relative position of Shukra/Guru in navamsa…generally the charts taken by him were of cases where either Shukra or Guru was well placed in navamsa. I didnt see any cases where both Guru and Venus were equally well-placed in navamsa so it is quite possible that the rules you cite should apply here. And in my own experience, I have always found this working well. And if there’s some delay indicated in the rasi chart, it should show up in the navamsa.
Now to the clue you gave for Vijay: “Any planet placed in the twelfth house blocks marriage”. I assume that you refer to the 12th house with respect to lagna…do you say this because the 12th house has virodhargala on the 7th house? But then, 12th house is also the house of bed-pleasures so its a upachaya for the 7th house. Which comes first?
And with reference to the chart given by Vijay, I think you refer to the planets in the 12th house of navamsa when giving this clue, is it not? Egad! I have Uccha Ketu in 12th house to lagna in navamsa…do you mean to say it blocks the marriage?
best regards
Hari
March 26th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Hari,
Since I cant access old issues of JD, will you be kind enough to send me your article on Naisargic dasa.
Thanks
Sharat
March 27th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Dear Hari,
Which issue of JD has these articles (both your’s and that of Sanjay’s). Is Sanjay’s article on his website same as that published in JD ?
Thanks for your pointers on D-9, approved by Sh. Sanjay Rath. In fact, from the hint given by Visti, I took the clue looking in 12th house from Upapada.
Let us wait for Visti’s remarks.
Thanks for your help.
Vijay Kumar
March 28th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Dear Hari and Vijay, Namaskar.
The twelfth house causes Sanyasa also. See we have two options to pay off our debts in life: 1) take Sanyasa and 2) get married and have children. These are essentially the paths of Guru and Shani. Shani is the karaka of the twelfth house and promotes Sanyasa, and its for this reason that Venus in the twelfth in navamsa can completely deny marriage all together if Saturn isn’t well placed.
So, as a result Brighu states: if Jupiter is in the twelfth house and Ketu is in the seventh the person will have affairs from the day of marriage itself.
Lets try to analyze why: Jupiter in the twelfth can deny marriage due to the teachers, elders, etc. Now, as per the Varachakra it its Ketu which will undue Jupiters blockage (fifth graha-remedy graha). But, if Ketu is placed in the seventh house then he will do so by causing affairs as nodes in seventh can promote adultery. So in this case Brighu says that this position will bring affairs from the beginning of marriage itself, i.e. Ketu will end Jupiters blockage to begin the affairs… ouch.
So who will save Mercury in the twelfth or Ketu?
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 28th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
Interesting that Ketu in 7H blocks Ju in 12H and promotes’ affairs’. So if Ju is strong, like it is in mine and retrograde(12H), Ketu from 7H may not be able to completely ‘ block ‘ it ! So neither was marriage blocked by Ju nor Ke gave affairs from day 1
Regards
Sharat
March 28th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Dear Sharat, Namaskar.
You have misunderstood. It is Jupiter in the twelfth which blocks the marriage, and its Ketu who removes the blockage. If Ketu is placed in the seventh house then when removing the obstacle he gives adultery as well.
But, for adultery caused by Ketu there must be two conditions fulfilled: 1) Venus must join or have rasi dristi on the second from upapada. 2) There must be a lack of children in the marriage… Ketu’s reason for giving marriage is to increase the family.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
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Dear Sharat & Vijay, namaste
My article is available directly as a featured article at http://thejyotishdigest.com/jd2004/v3i3.htm
I checked up on the references I used in this article and from this, Sanjay presented his paper on naisargika dasa in the 10th International Symposium on Vedic Astrology, Sedona, USA (2003) - ACVA. But it should be available on his website which however seems to be under modification currently. The link is:
http://srath.com/lessons/beginner/naisargikadasa.htm
Hope this helps you both.
Vijay,
Do consider a chart somewhat similar to the chart presented by you for the sake of further learning.
15/06/1978, 0955 hours IST (am), Chennai, India
Do tell me what you can deduce from this chart with respect to marriage. This chart is that of a lady.
best regards
Hari
March 28th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
I get that, I think I didnt write it correctly. Ju in 12th blocks 7H as per virodhargala and Ketu unblocks as per varachakra. What if both are in 12H? Will that mean both will promote ’sanyaas’?
Then we look at Venus and if that is afflicted as well!!
Regards
Sharat
March 28th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
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Dear Visti, namaste
Thanks for explaining the hint. In your article, you state that the upaya graha should be found from that graha corresponding to the number obtained after deducting the resultant number of the problem-causing grahas from nine.
In the example you gave about Guru in vyaya-amsa blocking the marriage, Guru’s number is 3 and hence the upaya graha should be that corresponding to 9-3 = 6 or Shukra. But in your email, you say that the upaya graha should be reckoned as the fifth from the problem causing graha. Please clarify.
For Budha in the 12th, the upaya graha would be Mangal but Mangal is karaka for celibacy so how can we advise that as remedy? Is this what you are driving at?
For Ketu in 12th, the upaya graha would be Moon; worship of Devi is best here.
The paths of sanyasa marga and grihastha marga are essentially that of Sani and Guru respectively. If Guru is in the 12th house, why would it work to block the marriage? It would be logical to expect that Sani in 12th blocks the marriage as it would like to push the native on to sanyasa marga. But then you say ANY graha in 12th blocks marriage; I can only conclude that this is because of virodhargaala.
best regards
Hari
March 28th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Dear Hari, Namaskar.
Make sure you also listen to the Jaimini lecture on the Vara Chakra where i have added some more calculations.
Yes, the twelfth gives virodha argala to the seventh and is also the natural marana karaka sthana for the same.
Yours sincerley, Visti Larsen.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:39 am
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
I have a question regarding ketu in curses. You have mentioned in providing example chart for curses that ketu is often not considered in analyzing for curses. However, you have also pointed out that some consider ketu to be higher benefic than Venus.
Thus, if ketu and venus are both under influence of two malefics, who would cause more suffering (considering house position, avastha being similar for both)?
Should the remedy be considered for bhava lord of ketu or venus?
I would greatly appreciate your guidance in this. I am thoroughly confused about ketu’s influence in curses.
Regards,
SK
March 29th, 2007 at 10:07 am
Dear SK, Namaskar.
Ketu can cause a curse of sadhu whereas Venus gives the curse of wife. The sadhu practices mantras every morning an is in deep meditation on Brahman, so his/her words will truly carry a lot of weight.
Now you have misunderstood the mp3 slightly, but thats ok as its not easy to grasp. When giving the specific remedy we are concerned with which curse is causing MORE suffering. I gave examples of this in the lecture where in one case a curse on Venus was giving more suffering than that of Jupiter. So you still need to solve this methodology.
But, when both house position, avastha, etc. are the same then look for the following influences:
1) conjunction of atmakaraka.
2) conjunction of lagna lord.
3) conjunction of eighth lord.
The influence of these makes the suffering more personal as it affects the native directly… such a curse is difficult to forget. Without the influence of these the curse will pass over without a direct impact on the native.
If you still can’t conclude from this, consider Ketu as more benefic than Venus in this regard.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 30th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
Thank you for detailed explanations and clarifying my doubts on this and devabadhaka.
In order arrive at a specific remedy for a curse, we have to identify the planet giving most suffering. From my current understanding I have come up with the following order to identify this planet:
1. Planet aspected by highest number of malefics
2. Planet in dusthana
3. Planet otherwise afflicted and in weakness (Debilitation in Rasi, Navamsa, MKS, etc)
4. Planet in conjunction with AK
5. Planet in conjunction with Lagna Lord
6. Planet in conjunction with 8th Lord
7. If all the things above are same, the highest benefic among planets under curse
If the two planets under curse are Ketu and Venus, then I would have to check these conditions to see which causes more suffering. From your reply, I understand that if the conditions 1-6 in the list doesn’t apply then Ketu should be considered as the planet causing most suffering than Venus.
Please indicate if the above order of identifying the planet causing most suffering is correct.
I am grateful for this opportunity to learn from you.
Regards,
SK
March 31st, 2007 at 1:17 pm
||Namah Shivaye||
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
I wanted to clarify about the 12th house graha for remedy.
We use the Vishnu form as per dictum, when using for’overall progress towards Mukti’ ,we use a dwadakshari mantra.
What mantra do we use when we want to pray to this graha for the houses it is karaka of? Do we just drop ‘ bhagwate ‘ from the dwadakshari?
You also gave example that we may go straight to Vishnu himself and use the vasuadevaya mantra.
Did I get that right?
Please advise, thanks.
Regards
Sharat
March 31st, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Dear Sharat and SK, Namaskar.
SK: Yes, its all correct.
Sharat: We normally choose the Pratyadhi devata for this purpose.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:09 pm
||Namah Shivaye||
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
I know what you mean, to worship the karaka, we use pratyadi devta.
I meant to ask the mantra syllables for Vishnu form of deity as per planet in the 12 H.
Sanjayji in one his lectures says if there is a planet in 12H, its karakas benefit if the graha is worshipped as Vishnu form. Should we not then not use the dasa-avtaar and their dwadakshari mantra? If so then it works like the Ishta devta mantra dictum? Isnt that right?
Regards
Sharat
April 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Dear Sharat, Namaskar.
Keep in mind that a mantra’s syllables will decide the effect/focus of the mantra. If you want moksha then twelve syllables is perfect. If you want the strength and ability to face the world and become a better human being then the eight syllable mantra is the best, and is my personal preference.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pm
||Namah Shivaye||
Dear Visti,
Namaskar,
Thanks, thats what I thought as well. In fact you did express this preference for the ashtakshari in your lecture on Ishta.
Regards
Sharat
PS:Looks like that there wasnt a Jaimini class on Sunday.
All the best
April 3rd, 2007 at 5:04 pm
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Dear Visti,
If you don’t mind, I am posting here a case in which I have been unable to trace the precise cause of delay in marriage for the native. The native is male, in good health, a very good cricketer (state-level), a Ph.D. in biochemistry, a postdoctoral researcher in a government-funded research institute and currently active in the cricket circles of his current residence.
All my predictions for timing of marriage have failed in this case. Could you please analyse what is the cause for delay of marriage in this chart, suitable remedies and timing of marriage event?
September 21, 1970
0:25:54, Chennai, Vepery, India (80E16, 13N05), +5H30
thanks and best regards
Hari
April 4th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Hello Visti,
Quick Q re your post #58:
When choosing between Venus and Ketu, you chose Ketu as more beneficial. I believe that in mundane matters Venus is morr beneficial, Ketu perhaps for spiritual ones- just Naisargika karakas significations.
In many charts I’ve seen ketu MD, AD to be very ‘humbling’ experience /let alone joyful/, while in Ve MD there is always some natural signs of joy /remember ‘better bad day fishing than good day working’?/
This is my perception on this-
I am so curious to know the reasons why you consider Ketu to more benefic than Venus.
Many astrologers see ketu as a malefic, and Sanjay seems to disagree completely this. Would you elaborate on this issue please- Ketu, natural benefic.
I feel a gap, sort of, in getting deeper understanding of Ketu’s nature. Although I experienced personally ketu MD in my childhood - it was very confusing, primarily and NOT good for my father at all /Ke is in 2nd/
I am not sure, but can be that religiosity has become inseparable part of my nature at that time, although I’d say that I quickly, effortlessly, spontaneously picked up my family’s religious beliefs since my early childhood, particularly those of my precious loving mother- has ketu MD provided the framework for that?
Love,
Anna
April 5th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Dear Anna,
My understanding of Ketu Vs Venus is similar to yours. A tamil proverb is - “Nothing blesses like Rahu and nothing curses like Ketu”. I have nth number of examples of this.
Visti would through light on the specificity of the belief which we may not have understood entirely.
regards
sanjeev
April 5th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
||Namah Shivaye||
Dear Sanjeev and Anna,
If I may add my 2 cents on this:
Ketu is considered the most benefic after Jupiter, in matters of dharma, spirituality and moksha. He shows you the Guru and is the natural mokshakaraka. Ketu also signifies knowledge as signified by the Vedmurtis.
Natural Devta for Ketu are the Nagas, who are considered spiritual and a source of blessings. Ketu is thus a benefic in these terms.
On the other hand in reference to material objectives, Ketu is headless and malefic, in the sense that it does opposite of the accepted social order aka its ability to eclipse the Moon(Society).
This is how I understand this.
Regards
Sharat
April 5th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Dear Sanjeev and Sharat,
Thanks for feedback. I feel that too, Sanjeev, about what you wrote about ketu, because nothing teaches us so well as our personal experience, and I’ve seen other people’s experiences to be similar to mine. Sometimes it seems being devastating for person’s life:confusion, mistakes, poor judgment, lack of action, selfconfidence, and misunderstandings of all kind I have seen too many times not to notice this.
As for spiritual side Sharat, I have experience as a child, which I haven’t forgotten, of living in a muddy ocean,confussion, senses reduced to minimum, lack of understanding and sharpness of mind… Other people told me the same.
R. Koch lives ketu period and Zoran as well. They may share their first hand experience at different age, which would certainly help us in understanding this shadow Ketu- yes, it proves to be headless, literally and metaphorically!
Regards,
Anna
April 5th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Dear All,
Vistiji i have one query:
Snha lagna and karka navamsa :
mars and venus joining in second house despositor of venus and rasi r where venus exalted,jupiter here, are in 4th house.
here that person having both planet mars and venus exalted in navamsa.
i feel this is an extremely aupicious combination but true query: moreover suryamsa in rasi and navamsa also venus..
what should be advised this person : i feel lakshmi mantra as being 10th lord venus in rasi and 10 lord exalted in navamsa
requesting you best lakshmi mantra if i am correct or any other bija mantra ?
April 6th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Dear Guru VistiJi, Namaskar
As I am a beginner, I am posting a chart that I am trying to understand with the help of many concepts that I have listened from your records.
October, 24, 1990. Birth time: 07:50 am.
TZ 3 west.
46 west 58 28
23 south 01 47.
Please, let me know if my reasoning is correct. This chart is from a girl and it seems to be interesting one. Initially, I tried to verify birth time multiplying lagna degree by 81 and the result fell in 26 gr. Makara, indicating that some correction must be done. Then, I tried to understand a bit more of the chart.
Badhaksthana is 9th house with Guru and Ketu. Guru is exalted in parivartana with Moon in second house. Indication of Dharmic issue (9th house and Guru involved). Moon, the Badhakesh, is cursed and Guru too. Sani conjunct Moon gives Raja Yoga although Saturn destroys Moon by Vara Chakra. Jupiter also destroys Ketu by Vara Chakra.
In 12th Sun is in MKS, conjunct Sukra and Budha. Mercury eclipses Venus.
Mars in 7th aspects Lagna, indicating angry feelings directed to the native.
Sani is AK shows that she has to learn to have faith in herself. The girl does not have self confidence, indicating by their Sun (Atman, ego) in 12th and Moon (mind) conjunct Sani. The girl has great difficulty to make friends (Mars in 7th), possible to have marriage in future, too. Lack of faith is because of Guru aspected by Rahu and Ketu, as well. Is her mother (Moon) or father (Sun) suffering? And about spirituality, as ketu is destroied by Guru?
Please, what should be prescribed to the girl, because there seem to be many problems? How should I continue to correct her birth chart?
Best Regards
Thank you very much
Leoncio
April 8th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Plz help on this matter. I am putting details of a native who is suffering from breast cancer. plz respected members give your advise as thispatient is fighting tough battle.
12/12/1957
12:55 PM (0-24 hr)
ahmedabad
gender:female
April 9th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Dear Visti Ji, Namaskar
Please, let me know if my reasoning is correct about chart sent by our colleague Astroyogi. I got Aquarius lagna. Tula is bhadaksthana with Rahu, Mars and Jupiter. The native seems to have Sarpa Bhadaka, and Guru is cursed. Chukra is Bhadhakesh in 12th, receiveing the aspect of Sani, indicating that Venus is cursed.
As Sani is conjunct Sun in Rasi and aspects Sun in Navamsa, there is a curse from father, too.
Since December 2004, native is living Cancer Narayana dasa that is 6th house (of diseases), 12th from Moon. Moon receives the aspect of Sani too. Moon indicates health and vital fluids of the native. Cancer receives the aspects of the Bhadhakesh Venus. This shows disease problem, especially because venus and moon indicates internal vital energy, jala tatwa.
Since March, 18, 2007 the native is living in Rahu dasa. His mind is full of doubt and fear, not helping any treatment (things are worse because Guru is cursed between 3 malefics).
Rahu and Mars transit by the ascendant, Ketu by 7th house, Sun and Mercury by the 2nd. All this indicates a difficult configuration.
Regards
Leoncio
April 10th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Dear Guys and Girls, Namaskar.
A mail from sunny-serbia. Look out for some new pictures in the album over the next few days:
Hari:
If i follow the principles you taught reg. marriage timing in navamsa, we see that Venus though exalted is afflicted by four malefics by rasi dristi. Guru itself is debilitated in the twelfth house and doesn’t promote marriage either.
Now, what i feel needs remedying are the placements in rasi. Specifically two placements, namely that of Shani and Rahu. Shani as lord of ninth in debility shows durbhagya and delay in marriage… this specifically delays stable relationships as Shani is vakra in the seventh from Venus… The partner is always pushed away due to this combination. This is also in the seventh from arudha lagna, and shows that with more advancement in his career, the further away from marriage he is pushed.
Rahu in the ninth also promotes durbhagya and delay in marriage and being placed in the fifth from arudha lagna it shows specifically his social circle/support group will be bad for him.
Notice that these two grahas are atma and amatya karaka respectively and shows some very deep rooted soul-level issues causing the problems.
My advise is to wear a yellow sapphire on the right hand ring finger and go on a pilgrimage to visit the shankaracarya. Then the blessing of marriage can come. If he can make such a visit before the 22nd of May this year it will turn very beneficial.
Anna:
In matters of curses we are always looking at that planet who holds a greater amount of truth/satya to curse. Here Ketu represents those whose sole focus is God like Ganesha sitting in constant meditation. So Ketu represents renunciates such as the hermits who live in the himalayas or the inhabitants of orthodox monasteries like Oztrog, or those in Fruska Gora and Sveta Gora.
For those who have Rahu or Ketu in the twelfth or seventh from arudha lagna we will see the spiritual shift from material to spiritual (or sometimes vice versa) during the dasas of the nodes or the narayana dasas containing the nodes, and these are triggers that make us choose one distinct path over the other.
I hope this answers your question.
Another issue is that Ketu can cause terrible devastation in a persons life due to mistakes or not using ones brains when performing actions. Then the house in which Ketu’s placed can be completely destroyed. This is especially important for Ketu’s placement in the houses of career and future namely the fifth and tenth houses. Here the tenth from Lagna and Moon is quite important, where the tenth from lagna shows our own performance of karma, whilst the tenth from Moon shows the career support being deprived due to mistakes.
Ganesha worship is necessary in such cases, or wearing a Cats eye on the LEFT hand.
Astroyogi:
We are all restricted by the limitations of written conversation and as a result its also quite difficult to understand the perspective and thoughts of the person who has written/communicated something unless more elaboration exists. I would ask you to provide the birth details and elaborate on the purpose with which you wanto give a remedy.
Leoncio:
All analysis must start from somewhere, and when looking for problems I always follow the steps of: pancanga, kalasarpa/malika yoga, curses, badhaka, etc.
There is some pancanga dosha due to the lord of Tithi and Vara being joined and this involving tenth from lagna and moon, but rather than causing distinct suffering it rather shows a person who won’t have a particularly fruitful career unless they go abroad (twelfth house). And even in a foreign country their will be a lack of growth and resources. However, a lack of malefic involvement denies much emotional suffering… there may be problems but suffering always comes from the malefics.
Now lets look for the suffering. There is a curse of Brahmin and a curse of Matri/mother. The mothers curse gives most suffering as it involves the atmakaraka, whilst lagnesha Ketu’s yuti with Guru is a problem, but not as bad as that which affects the atma (atmakaraka).
The curse of mother is also matribadhaka as the Moon is involved with the badhaka and associated with Saturn in rasi and Mars in navamsa giving both sorrow and anger from mother.
The yoga between Moon and Saturn can also severe family relations and cause financial problems as the Moon-Saturn yoga is a destructive yoga, but the issue here is the matri-badhaka.
Thank fully Jupiter is exalted in the badhaka sthana and shows that all obstacles can be removed by a person with a strong Jupiter, and will be part of the natives support circle (fifth from AL).
As Jupiter is the fifth lord it also shows that the native has forgotten the worship of a deity from their childhood. Once the native remembers this the issues related to the health (lagnesha), family (second house) and future (fifth house) will all be resolved. If she doesn’t remember then just tell her to worship Ganesha with a simple mantra as Ketu is yuti the fifth lord Jupiter.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
April 10th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Dear Astroyogi and Leoncio, Namaskar.
Cancer is due to uncontrolled expansion and manifests in the form of a malefic Jupiter or Rahu associated with the houses of disease i.e. 8th and 6th.
Regardless of what we may find in our analysis the first and foremost remedy to pull a malefic Jupiter out of the cancer is to advise wearing of diamonds and reciting the mrityunjaya mantra 2×108 times a day.. usually 1 mala in the morning and 2 mala in the evening.
Now, proceeding with the chart its apparent that the lagna may not be correct as we get 29 degrees Aquarius.
For Aquarius lagna we can vaguely justify that lagnesha Rahu in badhaka sthana with and afflicted Jupiter can cause cancer but if that had been so then due to the badhaka influence the doctors wouldn’t be sure if it was cancer to begin with!
Also with Aquarius lagna the shoola dasa since 2000 will be Capricorn which doesn’t have strong connection with the cancer causing planets, yet has a rudra yoga.
With Pisces lagna this is more clear as the afflicted Jupiter resides in the eighth house. The eighth lord Venus is placed in the second drekkana indicating chest region and being in capricorn indicates left breast will be affected by the cancer.
Also the shoola dasa will be of Aquarius which aspects the cancer-yoga in the eighth house and again giving intense problems since the year 2000.
So, ask her to wear a diamond on the right hand ring finger, recite the mrityunjaya mantra all the time, or atleast listen to it and ask her to be patient. The future is tough with the vimshottari dasas of malefics in the 12th and 8th houses in the navamsa, but Rahu-Guru antara in late 2009 will take her fully out of the disease. May Shiva bless her.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
April 11th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
Dear Guru Vistiji, Namaskar
Thank you very much for your teachings.
About the girl,i understand that “worshiping Ganesha” will please Ketu and Guru (the native forgot to worship a deity).
Going a bit further, please help me to advise correct gemstones. If Ketu gemstone is advised. Cat’s eye seems good because Ketu is lagna lord, although Ketu would destroy Guru that is lord of 5th.
There is a dictum that the gemstone of 9th lord (Moon) is always convenient: even in this case that Moon is in matribadhaka?
Because of lack in self confidence and shyness of native, Sun gemstone- Ruby (lord of 10th) in 12th could be convenient.
Concluding please let me know if the follow remedies would be correctly prescribed:
First possibility
a) Worship Ganesha as you have already advised;
b) Use of Jupiter (lord of 5th) gemstone (yellow sapphire or yellow crystal like citrine) ;
c) Use Sun (lord of 10th) gemstone (ruby).
Second possibility may be the use of Moon (lord of 9th)gemstone in place of Sun`s.
Regards
Leoncio
April 11th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Dear Vistiji,
Thanks very much for your time and thoughts more important !
I really asl almighty to shower lots of blessing for helping man kind in trouble.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:46 am
OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA
Dear Guru Ji namskar.
We are happy to be with Guru ji once again after longing for your presence for some time.
As it was explained to Leoncio ji,(ref no.:33)Guru ji may kindly permit us to know the remedial measures for such pancanga dosha, so that the person will have fruitful career in his/her mother country itself.
With respects.
Yours Sincerely,
Shishya Dheena
April 13th, 2007 at 3:04 am
Dear Visti,
I am sure you enjoy the warmth od Srbija, both literally and metaphorically! Will join you soon- Ostrog is on my list.And Bgd, of course.
very good explanation of Ketu, thanks.
You mentioned poor judgment, bad decision re the house it’s related to- I personally experienced mostly confusion, being in Ke MD at an early age. Not good for worldly issues, and I feel pretty helpless in the face of Ketu’s ‘deceptive’ nature guess that’s exactly the point!
Warmest wishes to Srbija, Branka and yourself,
Ana
April 14th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
dear guru,
i am really impressed by ur lectures on the site. U have a great knowledge. Just want to ask one question, no astrologer could be able to give me this ans uptil now. I am learning vedic astrology from past 6yrs,i am in melbourne and i want to become complete jyotish, can i become a astrologer? just one ouestion my details are 10june1981 4:30pm place: meerut(u.p) india. sir i hope u,ll solve my query.
thanking you
Arjun
April 15th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
|| Hare Rama Krushna ||
Namaste Vistiji,
For some time now I have wondered the effects of Kala Sarpa Yoga when Rahu and Ketu are exalted. I am referring to a chart with Virgo lagna, Mars and exalted Ketu in 4th, exalted Venus in 7th, exalted Moon, Jupiter, Sun, and Saturn in 9th, and exalted Rahu and Mercury in the 10th. You, while explaining the Pisacha Yoga, once commented on this chart that Pisacha Yoga will not apply because of the exaltation of Ketu (due to blessings of Sri Rama). So, similarly, will KSY in this chart also be modified in some way due to exaltation of Rahu and Ketu?
After learning from you about KSY remedies, I am inclined to advise the native to worship Kamalaatmika Devi. The native is a little girl. She has a few behavioral issues, but otherwise is extremely intelligent (Lagna Lord Mercury conjoined exalted Rahu?). My concern is that her behavioral issues might be exemplified due to the same Mercury-Rahu conjunction. We usually don’t like Lagna Lords associated with Rahu, especially a Rahu involved in KSY. But an exalted Rahu? I am not sure.
Please shed any light you can on this KSY. I do not want to give a wrong remedy due to lack of my knowledge (I am always so afraid of this). And hence, I am trying to confirm from you.
Birth data, for your reference is - 05/24/2001, 88E22-22N32, 13:21. Time has not been rectified.
May Sri Vishnu bless us all,
Reema.
April 20th, 2007 at 6:56 am
hare krishna,
sir a well methodical manner of explaining about the remedies which was an eye opener.I would really appreaciate if you would throw light on this chart which i present as i see two curses being present in chart with total 7 planets in it in 2bhavs which are mutually aspecting eachother by graha drishti with only exception of venus and saturn being out and also the noteworthy point in the horoscope is that the person has three retrograde planet involved in 1st and 2nd curse respectively.
the native birth details are :
1st March1980,14:21hrs ,Faridabad ,INDIA
the curse which i see formed in the 3rd house of this native wit gemini lagna whereby retrograde jupiter and mars with moon n rahu …
the other curse formed in 9th house with surya ketu and retrograde budh..
my querry is regarding the 3rd house curse where by the significator of the rasi — the sun itself is involved in a curse .
so should we suggest the worship of surya — guru of graha- dakshinamurthy .
secondy querry is with the appeasement of the prayatdi devta of 3rd house- agni/shiva…
sir,i really look forward to learn for your reply. thanking you. highest regards for you and your knowledge on astrology.
your eternal wellwisher
aRNAB
April 21st, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Dear Leoncio, Dheenababu, Anna, Arjun, Reema and Arnab Namaskar
Leoncio
The best gemstone is that of the fifth lord in this case as we want the future to begin. We can almost always advise this, just be sure to look for any parivartana yogas. Forget the tenth lord for now.
Dheena
Essentially the problem is that the agni tatva arising from the varesha has been quelled by the jala tatva of the tithi lord. For this we normally advise tatva-mantras, i.e. agni mantras, etc. I will let you more about this in the future when i myself am sure.
Anna
Serbia is great as usual. We had a wonderful time and hope to spend some more time there this summer.
Arjun
You have all the qualities of an astrologer as Ketu and Sun are in trikona in navamsa. Sun also lords the eleventh from lagna in rasi showing the strong interest.
But, its because Venus lords the eleventh from your arudha lagna that you can work as a consultant in areas like Jyotisha. However, as Venus is the lord of the same it shows that a guru must help, whereas Sun and Mars in the eleventh from AL are compelling you towards works like engineering or the likes.
Now see the dasamsa. Here our focus is on Ketu. Ketu lords the seventh house and whilst this shows astrology-business, Ketu is placed in the eighth and doesn’t show this being a permanent business. So Dasas will decide and for the next ten years Rahu is running which will compell you to work as an astrologer and earn as the same.
Jupiter will replace Rahu and as he disposits Ketu there is a chance that this will continue from then on.
I wish you good luck in this endeavor knowing that you will make an excellent Jyotisha. Make sure you learn the techniques to predict roga, yuddha (jupiter in kanya).
Reema
The Kala yoga’s exist no matter the avastha. The reason the pisacha badhaka was nullified is because in those cases the purpose of the node is to pull down the health and kavacha of the body. But if the node is exalted it cannot do that and must give good health instead and increase the kavacha.
Mahavidya worship requires maturity, and it would be best to wait if possible. Venus is exalted and the best remedy is to advise a gemstone and to get married. After this the kala sarpa yoga will be practically non-existant.
Arnab
The worst curse is no doubt that of MKS Guru in the third house. Sun is unfortunately part of the curse and cannot be remedied, as is Mars. We are left with the worship of Prajapati and this we can advise.
I hope this helps.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
April 21st, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Dear Guru Vistiji, Namaskar
First, I wish all happiness to you and spouse.
Thank you very much for your guidance.
Please, see if my reasoning is correct.
Yes, there is parivarthana between Moon and Jupiter, indicating that Moon will give the effect of Jupiter. But Moon is conjunct Saturn in 2nd: Sani is supposed to give the effect of Moon.
Concluding: the girl should use Saturn (blue sapphire) gemstone in Ring finger. Please, let me know if this is correct.
Another question is what will help in ketu dasas? For instance she is living Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon ) of Ven MD: 1992-03-28 (9:16:14 am) - 2012-03-28 (12:21:15 pm): Antardasas in this MD:
Sat: 2005-01-27 (10:56:59 pm) - 2008-03-28 (11:39:23 am)
Merc: 2008-03-28 (11:39:23 am) - 2011-01-28 (12:00:25 pm)
Ket: 2011-01-28 (12:00:25 pm) - 2012-03-28 (12:21:15 pm)
Regards
Leoncio
April 21st, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Dear VistiJi, Namaskar
I have just read your answer to Maka, and perhaps I have missed some point. You told in one class that if some grahas are conjunct they exchange effects (independent if they lord 9th, 5th or 1st house?): the most malefic would give the effect of the most benefic and vice versa.
Because of this I suggested Sani gemstone for the girl in my e-mail above.
If this is not correct Moon stone should be indicated.
Please, instruct me about this.
Regards
Leoncio
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 pm
Dear Vistiji
My Husband has Saturn in his 6th House which Mesh Saturn. Is it good or bad also are there any remedies to this saturn. He is a Vrishabha rasi with Vrishika as his lagna rasi
Regards
Neelam
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:59 pm
|| Hare Rama Krushna ||
Namaste Vistiji,
Thank you so much for clearing the doubts in my mind. I am glad I thought of asking you before recommending Sri Kamalaatmika worship to the little girl’s mother. Now, I will learn about the gemstones and ask you any questions I may have.
Our thankfulness to you for teaching us Jyotisha with so much patience, knowledge, and love cannot be expressed in words!
May Sri Vishnu bless us all,
Reema.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:35 pm
Dear Leoncio and Reema Namaskar.
Leoncio
Parivartana dominates over conjunction always, so if you were to advise any gemstone it would have been the yellow sapphire. Also i would recommend that you only advise another gemstone incase of parivartana. This is my personal experience.
Please clarify your question reg. Ketu antara.
Reema
No need to thank me, this is my dharma to my Guru.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Dear Guru VistiJi, Namaskar
Thank you for the opportunity to learn with you.
Let me clarify my doubt about basics.
1)You have already indicated Ganesha Mantra to pacify and propitiate Ketu, that is co-lord of lagna and conjuct Guru in 9th.
2)Also you recommended that the best gemstone is that of the fifth lord in this case as we want the future to begin. The 5th lord is Jupiter and because of parivartana, Moon should have the effect of Jupiter. SO IN THIS CASE OF 5TH HOUSE EXALTATION, WOULDNT BE BETTER THE GIRL USE MOON GEMSTONE IN RING FINGER AND NOT JUPITER`S?
3)My doubt about Ketu (and Sani) is because they are respectively conjunct the lords of 5th (Ketu) and 9th (Sani). Ketu in particular is very destructive and enemy of Jupiter. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT OF THEIR PERIODS (KETU AND SANI) AND CORRESPONDENT REMEDIES?
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Excusem the mistake. Your sincerely, Leoncio
April 26th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Dear Leoncio Namaskar.
I thought i had answered this post, but there seems to be some problem.
2) The parivartana does not involve the fifth house but the second house, hence the gemstone of the fifth lord itself should be worn.
3) The conjunctions will not give the effects of the planets in conjunction if those are in parivartana.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
April 27th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Dear Guru VistiJi, Namaskar
Thank you very much indeed. Continuing the studies, i am analyzing the chart below. The native is Pisces lagna. Jupiter is involved in parivarthana with moon. The native suffers Guru curse.
By recommendation of an astrologer the native is wearing Coral (related to the 9th lord) and Guru Gemstone.
Date: September 14,1954
Time: 18:31:00
Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)
Place: 54 W 37′ 00″, 20 S 27′ 00″
Please, could you kindly answer my questions bellow?
a)Is the coral convenient for the native?
My doubt is because Mars is conjunct Rahu in 10th in the 2nd from AL.
b)Should the native start to wear moon gemstone? Moon is alone in 1st without grahas in 12th and 2nd.
Please, clarify.
Sincerely
Leoncio
April 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Dear Visti Ji,
Namaskar.
I attempted to find a remedy for the male native whose birth particulars are as under:
Date: April 29, 1981, Time: 4:06:00 am, Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 72 E 11′ 00″, 21 N 46′ 00″
When I tried to analyse this chart I found it complicated. My observations are mentioned below:
Lagna lord Ju is retrograde and is afflicted by retrograde 11th & 12th lord Saturrn. This chart has Curse of spouse. Venus is conjunct with exalted Sun and Mars. The curse is in the 2nd house which is also Upapada. Ve is lord of 2nd house from UL and hence for marriage it is important. Further to this 7th lord Me which is Badhakesha is involved in Kalatra shaap.
Now with reference to your answer in post #83 this chart has few similarities. Kalatra shaap is on 3/9 axis in Navamsha chart. Here Rahu has conjoined Ve in 3rd house. Retro Sa is in 7th house from Ve. Sa is 7th lord in Navamsha chart. From Navamsha lagna Sa is in 9th house and is in debility. In Navamsha Rasi lagna lord Ju and UL are in MKS from Ve. In this chart also Ve and Ra are AK and AmK respectively.
Is it possible to find a remedy for this native? What could be the remedy for the Curse of spouse?
1.Dispositor of Ve is Mars. Mars is involved in a curse and hence worship of Hanuman can not be recommended.
2.Karaka of the 2nd house Ju is well placed but it is retrograde and afflicted by retro Sa. So worship of the pratyadhi devata is ruled out.
3.We have to look for the Tattwa worship. Devata of 2nd house is Jupiter. But Ju is afflicted. Can we still recommend worship of Vishnu? Can we advise Ashtakshari mantra since the curse is on 2/8 house axis? Please suggest a good mantra for the worship.
4.What can be said about marriage prospects? Is it a case of denial or delay of marriage?
5.In Navamsha chart does the Sa has neechabhanga since Sun is in lagna and is in Kendra from Moon?
6.Does Ke in 9th house in Navamsha indicate Durbhagya yoga, like Ra?
7.Will you recommend a gemstone to wear? Please elaborate.
Please correct me and guide me. Thank you.
Regards,
Rajendra
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Dear Guru VistiJi, Namaskar
Complementing my last e-mail, the native is living now Mars dasa. Then follows the long Rahu dasa. Because of conjunction, is it supposed that Mars will give the effect of Rahu and Rahu the effect of Mars? Please, could you guide me answeering this question and from my last e-mail relating to remedies?
Thank you
Regards
Leoncio
May 4th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Respected Visti j