Comments on: Marana Karaka Sthana http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/ Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) resource for articles, lessons, discussions, consultations and news based in Frederiksberg, Denmark: devoted to the teaching and practice of Vedic Astrology. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:42:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Hariprasad http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-3192 Hariprasad Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:14:33 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-3192 Dear Vistiji, Namaskara, I was analyzing my own Tithi Pravesha chart for the coming year and in the Navamsa divisional chart, Mercury is in Virgo in 7th house and owns the 4th and 7th houses. It is in a own house, exalted and also in MKS. Could you kindly provide any comments on how to interpret this placement. Thanks and Regards, Hari Birth Details: 20th June 1977, 6:47AM, Bangalore, India. Dear Vistiji, Namaskara,

I was analyzing my own Tithi Pravesha chart for the coming year and in the Navamsa divisional chart, Mercury is in Virgo in 7th house and owns the 4th and 7th houses. It is in a own house, exalted and also in MKS.

Could you kindly provide any comments on how to interpret this placement.

Thanks and Regards, Hari

Birth Details: 20th June 1977, 6:47AM, Bangalore, India.

]]> By: rateesh http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-2412 rateesh Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:05:59 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-2412 Respected Vistiji Thanks for reply to my last ques about MKS venus for leo lagna ,,the venus being in 6H... The gal whom iam getting married to is sagg lagna and is vargottama...Jupiter and mars in 4th house .....saturn and sun in 7th house .... and has jupiter and rahu in MKS though no planet is MKS in raasi..WHATS THE EFFET OF JUPITER GOING TO MKS IN NAVAMSA AND RAHU BEING IN LEO wud be greatful to your insightful comments om namaha shivaya om namaha shivayya Respected Vistiji

Thanks for reply to my last ques about MKS venus for leo lagna ,,the venus being in 6H…
The gal whom iam getting married to is sagg lagna and is vargottama…Jupiter and mars in 4th house …..saturn and sun in 7th house ….

and has jupiter and rahu in MKS though no planet is MKS in raasi..WHATS THE EFFET OF JUPITER GOING TO MKS IN NAVAMSA AND RAHU BEING IN LEO

wud be greatful to your insightful comments

om namaha shivaya

om namaha shivayya

]]> By: Shiv http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-2129 Shiv Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:18:07 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-2129 Respected Vistiji, Pranams May I ask between MKS and debilitated planets, which is more serious. Does strengthening a MKS Saturn make a native more tamasic or less, especially if it's retrograde? MKS leads to weakness of planet while retrogression leads to its strength. So what's the way out for making native more hardworking, agile, alert, aware etc. Rgds Shiv Respected Vistiji,
Pranams
May I ask between MKS and debilitated planets, which is more serious.

Does strengthening a MKS Saturn make a native more tamasic or less, especially if it’s retrograde? MKS leads to weakness of planet while retrogression leads to its strength. So what’s the way out for making native more hardworking, agile, alert, aware etc.

Rgds
Shiv

]]> By: Vinod http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-2037 Vinod Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:08:42 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-2037 Resp. Visti Ji Namaskar Is there a remedy available for MKS?. Can you pl. suggest some remedy for this girl born in " Anuraadha " Nakshatra having a virgo lagna in rasi chart with Jupiter , Venus , Moon in 3rd house. In D-9 Moon is also debiliatated & is in eight house with Jupiter. Thanks Vinod Resp. Visti Ji

Namaskar

Is there a remedy available for MKS?. Can you pl. suggest some remedy for this girl born in ” Anuraadha ” Nakshatra
having a virgo lagna in rasi chart with Jupiter , Venus , Moon in 3rd house. In D-9 Moon is also debiliatated & is in eight house with Jupiter.

Thanks Vinod

]]> By: Swati http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1882 Swati Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:47:26 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1882 Om Gurave Namah Dear Dheena ji Thanks a lot for an insightful response. Swati Om Gurave Namah
Dear Dheena ji
Thanks a lot for an insightful response.
Swati

]]> By: shishya dheena http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1872 shishya dheena Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:41:18 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1872 OM NAMAHSHIVAAYA Dear Guru ji, Namaskar. Swati ji, kindly add the following thoughts to my previous one. This is my thoughts with respect to Ghirni Surya mantra. Remember Ramayan, You know that Ravana is Mayavi, if he is so why he had not taken the vesha of Rama to pacify Seetha devi. There lies the secret. If he transforms himself into Rama he found that not only his body but his heart soul and mind also transforms into Rama’s one, means ekapathni vradha. Because of this problem only Ravana rejected this technique. May this be one of the reasons for worshiping the respective planets in Surya vesha. With respects to Guru ji. shishya dheena OM NAMAHSHIVAAYA
Dear Guru ji, Namaskar.
Swati ji, kindly add the following thoughts to my previous one.
This is my thoughts with respect to Ghirni Surya mantra.
Remember Ramayan, You know that Ravana is Mayavi, if he is so why he had not taken the vesha of Rama to pacify Seetha devi. There lies the secret. If he transforms himself into Rama he found that not only his body but his heart soul and mind also transforms into Rama’s one, means ekapathni vradha. Because of this problem only Ravana rejected this technique. May this be one of the reasons for worshiping the respective planets in Surya vesha.
With respects to Guru ji.
shishya dheena

]]> By: shishya dheena http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1870 shishya dheena Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:24:12 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1870 OM NAMAHSHIVAAYA Dear Guru ji, Namaskar. Kindly permit me to pen down my thoughts as a reply to Swati ji, Swati ji, Namaskar First one should identify the route cause, like they do in Homeopathy treatment, where there is no remedy for decease but for symptoms. Once symptoms are remedied, the decease will automatically cure. As per your example the route cause for the suffering (decease) of 9H and 10H is due to Venus in MKS. Here Venus feels unsecured with little self confidence. At this juncture, we are requesting (praying) the Karak of the 6H (in Surya vesha) to pacify and clear the Venus’s feelings or to create an environment so that Venus will regain self confidence and feel that nothing is as like it feels and some friendly environment is there for its survival in 6H. Thus the symptoms felt by the Venus are relieved and the decease of the 9H and 10H were cured. Finally one should remember that 9H or 10H is not afflicted directly, if it is so like Rahu in 9H then we have to request Guru (9H Karak) to save the Dharma (9H) from Rahu. At this same example, one cannot request (pray) 9H owner Venus (for Virgo Lagna as per your example) to create a compatible environment for Rahu. If one asks so Rahu will gain more power or feel better to do more harm because, the environment is also compatible to him to do more harm. Nothing is greater than Guru ji’s words. With respects to Guru ji. shishya dheena OM NAMAHSHIVAAYA
Dear Guru ji, Namaskar.
Kindly permit me to pen down my thoughts as a reply to Swati ji,
Swati ji, Namaskar
First one should identify the route cause, like they do in Homeopathy treatment, where there is no remedy for decease but for symptoms. Once symptoms are remedied, the decease will automatically cure.
As per your example the route cause for the suffering (decease) of 9H and 10H is due to Venus in MKS. Here Venus feels unsecured with little self confidence. At this juncture, we are requesting (praying) the Karak of the 6H (in Surya vesha) to pacify and clear the Venus’s feelings or to create an environment so that Venus will regain self confidence and feel that nothing is as like it feels and some friendly environment is there for its survival in 6H. Thus the symptoms felt by the Venus are relieved and the decease of the 9H and 10H were cured.
Finally one should remember that 9H or 10H is not afflicted directly, if it is so like Rahu in 9H then we have to request Guru (9H Karak) to save the Dharma (9H) from Rahu. At this same example, one cannot request (pray) 9H owner Venus (for Virgo Lagna as per your example) to create a compatible environment for Rahu. If one asks so Rahu will gain more power or feel better to do more harm because, the environment is also compatible to him to do more harm.
Nothing is greater than Guru ji’s words.
With respects to Guru ji.
shishya dheena

]]> By: Bijay http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1857 Bijay Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:02:32 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1857 Dear Visti jee, Hari Om. My dear wife says, some astrolger told her when she was a kid, she would have 35/36/37th year's are life threatning. Is it true? Her details: Birth - Oct 16th 1973, Time 20.35 PM Place - Puri (Orissa) INDIA The birth time may not be very accurate. My details: March 5th 1969, Time 18.15PM Place - Vizianagaram, India Our marriage - May 24th 1997 11.45PM I really appreciate if you could tell me as there is no threat to her longevity. Yours truly, Bijay Dear Visti jee,

Hari Om.

My dear wife says, some astrolger told her when she was a kid, she would have 35/36/37th year’s are life threatning. Is it true?

Her details:

Birth - Oct 16th 1973, Time 20.35 PM
Place - Puri (Orissa) INDIA

The birth time may not be very accurate.

My details:
March 5th 1969, Time 18.15PM
Place - Vizianagaram, India

Our marriage - May 24th 1997 11.45PM

I really appreciate if you could tell me as there is no threat to her longevity.

Yours truly,
Bijay

]]> By: Swati http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1852 Swati Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:39:02 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1852 Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ? Swati Om Tat Sat Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,
Dear Vistiji,
When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!).
Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.
Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?
Swati
Om Tat Sat

]]> By: manju http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1823 manju Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:09:52 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1823 born on 21/06/1978 14.30 pm mine is tula lagna lagna lord in 10th house , association of 5th lord saturn and 7th lord mars in 11th house indicate love marriage , venus in cancer 5th lord from venus is saturn and 7th lord from venus is mars is associated indicate love marriage and upapada and darapada are same in saggitarus once again love marriage . in upapada moon is there and 7th house of upapada there is mercury jupiter and sun and 8th house of upapada is venus indicating many raja yogas ...10th house of upapada is rahu please kindly tell me my marriage is love or arrange how is my wife look where she comes from .she is rich or not how is my marriage life born on 21/06/1978 14.30 pm mine is tula lagna lagna lord in 10th house , association of 5th lord saturn and 7th lord mars in 11th house indicate love marriage , venus in cancer 5th lord from venus is saturn and 7th lord from venus is mars is associated indicate love marriage and upapada and darapada are same in saggitarus once again love marriage . in upapada moon is there and 7th house of upapada there is mercury jupiter and sun and 8th house of upapada is venus indicating many raja yogas …10th house of upapada is rahu please kindly tell me my marriage is love or arrange how is my wife look where she comes from .she is rich or not how is my marriage life

]]> By: manju http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1816 manju Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:19:31 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1816 tula lagna association of 5th lord saturn and 7th lord mars in 11th house indicate love marriage mine upapada and darapada are same in saggitarus also indicate love marriage venus in 10th house from lagna tula lagna association of 5th lord saturn and 7th lord mars in 11th house indicate love marriage mine upapada and darapada are same in saggitarus also indicate love marriage venus in 10th house from lagna

]]> By: Sudhir http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1021 Sudhir Tue, 22 May 2007 06:44:27 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-1021 Dear Visti ji I am not sure if you answered about the mantra for the Varuna-Aditya that is the mantra for the Sun's MKS. Should one also recite Matangi mantra in addition to the Varuna-aditya mantra. Best regards Sudhir Dear Visti ji

I am not sure if you answered about the mantra for the Varuna-Aditya that is the mantra for the Sun’s MKS. Should one also recite Matangi mantra in addition to the Varuna-aditya mantra.

Best regards
Sudhir

]]> By: Viresh http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-925 Viresh Wed, 16 May 2007 05:49:40 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-925 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Vistiji & Sharathji, namaskar Thank you for your opinion. I also wanted to know about how to use jyotirlinga mantra for AK. For e.g my AK is Saturn which indicates mahakal. However Vistiji in one of his lectures mentioned that see placement of AK in rasi and use jyotirlinga worship accordingly. Saturn in ninth house indicates saggitarius and Vishwanath and lord and karaka is same that is jupiter. So could you briefly explain how do we go about choosing jyotirlinga for AK. Also forgot to mention in the earlier post that Sun is also my Istha Devata. So probably it is my Istha Devata w3ho may cause some suffering to make me more spiritual. Also could you tell me where can i find mantras for devi forms. I found this mantra for tripurasundari which is devi form for mercury. is it the one that you reccommend Om Aim Hreem Shreem Sri Lalita Tripurasundari Padukam Poojayami Namah Thanking You Viresh Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Vistiji & Sharathji, namaskar

Thank you for your opinion.
I also wanted to know about how to use jyotirlinga mantra for AK.
For e.g my AK is Saturn which indicates mahakal. However Vistiji in one of his lectures mentioned that see placement of AK in rasi and use jyotirlinga worship accordingly. Saturn in ninth house indicates saggitarius and Vishwanath and lord and karaka is same that is jupiter. So could you briefly explain how do we go about choosing jyotirlinga for AK.
Also forgot to mention in the earlier post that Sun is also my Istha Devata. So probably it is my Istha Devata w3ho may cause some suffering to make me more spiritual.
Also could you tell me where can i find mantras for devi forms.
I found this mantra for tripurasundari which is devi form for mercury. is it the one that you reccommend
Om Aim Hreem Shreem Sri Lalita Tripurasundari Padukam Poojayami Namah
Thanking You
Viresh

]]> By: Sharat http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-916 Sharat Tue, 15 May 2007 18:51:47 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-916 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Viresh, If you permit me to give my humble opinion,as you have noted, Surya is neecha in navamsa in your chart and in MKS plus also in a curse( due to Nodes and Mangal). You need to strenghten Surya by Rameshwar Jyotirlinga worship which will also help in getting out of the curse. In addition worship of the Lord of the 12H,as Guru Brishaspati, will also be of benefit in overcoming the curse on Surya as Guru is well placed in kendra. Best wishes Sharat ||Namah Shivaya||
Dear Viresh,
If you permit me to give my humble opinion,as you have noted, Surya is neecha in navamsa in your chart and in MKS plus also in a curse( due to Nodes and Mangal). You need to strenghten Surya by Rameshwar Jyotirlinga worship which will also help in getting out of the curse. In addition worship of the Lord of the 12H,as Guru Brishaspati, will also be of benefit in overcoming the curse on Surya as Guru is well placed in kendra.
Best wishes
Sharat

]]> By: Viresh http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-911 Viresh Tue, 15 May 2007 11:31:45 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-911 HARE RAMA HRISHNA Dear Vistiji,namaskar I have gone through all your lectures that u did on curses,mks and badhaka and foud concepts useful and applicable in many charts. In fact i intend to share some charts with you that are so hopeless to give remdedy as the planet that are supposed to remedy the curse are themselves involved in the curse. I will give data about those charts soon if its ok Anyways, in my own chart there is a big problem with that Sun and i have been aware of it. It is in MKS in 12th house, involved in curse with 3 planets and debilitated in navamsa. Its something horrific i guess. The question that i have is that would a simple remedy as praying Sambasadashiva would be enough or do i need something more? You have my birth details but giving them again Birth date 07/01/1982 birth time 09:12 a.m. Place Mumbai Also thanking you very much especially for the lectures that u have been giving for past two months or so as they have cleared a lot of my doubts regard Viresh HARE RAMA HRISHNA
Dear Vistiji,namaskar

I have gone through all your lectures that u did on curses,mks and badhaka and foud concepts useful and applicable in many charts. In fact i intend to share some charts with you that are so hopeless to give remdedy as the planet that are supposed to remedy the curse are themselves involved in the curse.
I will give data about those charts soon if its ok
Anyways, in my own chart there is a big problem with that Sun and i have been aware of it. It is in MKS in 12th house, involved in curse with 3 planets and debilitated in navamsa. Its something horrific i guess.
The question that i have is that would a simple remedy as praying Sambasadashiva would be enough or do i need something more? You have my birth details but giving them again
Birth date 07/01/1982
birth time 09:12 a.m.
Place Mumbai
Also thanking you very much especially for the lectures that u have been giving for past two months or so as they have cleared a lot of my doubts
regard
Viresh

]]> By: Rani http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-857 Rani Fri, 11 May 2007 15:30:16 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-857 Dear Mr. Larsen, Thanks for the response as always. So, it is the same as parivartan yoga between 3 and 7 but the MKS positions then add the oscillation factor to it. It looks like the exalted venus in 7th (conjunct Mars) and unafflicted strong LL mercury in 5th should help the situation. I will go through the responses again for a third time... because every time I read your pages I discover new points :) Regards, Rani Dear Mr. Larsen,

Thanks for the response as always. So, it is the same as parivartan yoga between 3 and 7 but the MKS positions then add the oscillation factor to it.

It looks like the exalted venus in 7th (conjunct Mars) and unafflicted strong LL mercury in 5th should help the situation. I will go through the responses again for a third time… because every time I read your pages I discover new points :)

Regards,
Rani

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-851 Visti Larsen Fri, 11 May 2007 12:53:31 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-851 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Rani, Namaskar. You will get this answer if you read through the posts on parivartana. But, i can tell you that the person will oscillate between good marriage and troubling fights and battles in their personal life. Of course this depends on the position of Venus and Mercury as well. Yours sincerely, Visti. हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear Rani, Namaskar.
You will get this answer if you read through the posts on parivartana. But, i can tell you that the person will oscillate between good marriage and troubling fights and battles in their personal life. Of course this depends on the position of Venus and Mercury as well.

Yours sincerely, Visti.

]]> By: Rani http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-843 Rani Thu, 10 May 2007 21:20:38 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-843 Dear Mr. Larsen, For a Virgo lagna... Jupiter is in 3rd house and mars is in seventh house. There is parivartan between these two planets which are in thier marana karaka sthanas. How do I interpret this combination? Regards, Rani Dear Mr. Larsen,

For a Virgo lagna… Jupiter is in 3rd house and mars is in seventh house. There is parivartan between these two planets which are in thier marana karaka sthanas. How do I interpret this combination?

Regards,
Rani

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-642 Visti Larsen Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:14:10 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-642 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear PJ, Namaskar. Mars lords the fourth and eleventh houses, and among the planets badly placed from them i count Mercury and Moon. Moon because of the conjunction showing that the mother may have some problems, whilst Mercury shows problems with friends (11th house karaka) and primary education (fourth house). Since Mars itself is the karaka for property there could be some problematic property issues in the persons life. Especially when Tula dasa comes from 2035-2036. Yours sincerely, Visti हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear PJ, Namaskar.
Mars lords the fourth and eleventh houses, and among the planets badly placed from them i count Mercury and Moon. Moon because of the conjunction showing that the mother may have some problems, whilst Mercury shows problems with friends (11th house karaka) and primary education (fourth house).
Since Mars itself is the karaka for property there could be some problematic property issues in the persons life. Especially when Tula dasa comes from 2035-2036.
Yours sincerely, Visti

]]> By: PJ http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-478 PJ Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:11:40 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-478 Dear Visti-ji, How will the following person be affected by Mars being debilitated in MKS. Mars is placed with Moon in its own house (Cancer) DOB: 30th Nov 1977 Time:11:45 am Place:72 E 50' 00'', 18 N 58' 00'' Dear Visti-ji,
How will the following person be affected by Mars being debilitated in MKS. Mars is placed with Moon in its own house (Cancer)

DOB: 30th Nov 1977
Time:11:45 am
Place:72 E 50′ 00”, 18 N 58′ 00”

]]> By: Anna http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-477 Anna Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:31:31 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-477 Dear Reema and Visti, Thanks for clarifying this for me- although I thought it was a mistake /and didn't want to 'split the hair'/- but is much better, of course, to be sure I didn't miss something Regards, Anna Dear Reema and Visti,
Thanks for clarifying this for me- although I thought it was a mistake /and didn’t want to ’split the hair’/- but is much better, of course, to be sure I didn’t miss something

Regards,
Anna

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-472 Visti Larsen Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:36:18 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-472 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Reema, Namaskar #15: Yes. #16: How does a house or car die? they are jadaatmas and can be broken but not die. #17: Yes that was a mistake i realized later, instead it is simply a trika placement. Yours sincerely, Visit. हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear Reema, Namaskar
#15: Yes.
#16: How does a house or car die? they are jadaatmas and can be broken but not die.
#17: Yes that was a mistake i realized later, instead it is simply a trika placement.

Yours sincerely, Visit.

]]> By: Reema Sriganesh http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-470 Reema Sriganesh Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:39:35 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-470 || Hare Rama Krushna || Namaste Vistiji, Can you please answer the questions I have posed in post # 15, 16, and 17? It will help me further my understanding about Marana Karaka Sthana. Thank you. May Sri Vishnu bless us all, Reema. || Hare Rama Krushna ||

Namaste Vistiji,

Can you please answer the questions I have posed in post # 15, 16, and 17? It will help me further my understanding about Marana Karaka Sthana.

Thank you.

May Sri Vishnu bless us all,
Reema.

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-453 Visti Larsen Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:02:09 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-453 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Michal, Namaskar The naisargika karaka always shows MY experience. I.e. Venus shows the general experience of relationships whilst the seventh lord from Venus is responsible for bringing the spouse. So: Naisargika karaka relates to the mind/mana. Chara karaka relates to the soul/atma. Sthira karaka relates to the body/kaya. So, to see exactly what is happening to the father you should check the ninth lord from Sun as well as the ninth lord from lagna... your experience is just the karaka itself. In case of Clinton the ninth lord from Sun is Mars who is yuti a neecha Venus in the third house. I hope this answers your question. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen. हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear Michal, Namaskar
The naisargika karaka always shows MY experience. I.e. Venus shows the general experience of relationships whilst the seventh lord from Venus is responsible for bringing the spouse.

So:
Naisargika karaka relates to the mind/mana.
Chara karaka relates to the soul/atma.
Sthira karaka relates to the body/kaya.

So, to see exactly what is happening to the father you should check the ninth lord from Sun as well as the ninth lord from lagna… your experience is just the karaka itself.

In case of Clinton the ninth lord from Sun is Mars who is yuti a neecha Venus in the third house.

I hope this answers your question.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.

]]> By: Sharat http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-447 Sharat Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:52:30 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-447 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Michal, My 2 cents... Sthir karaka Sun when seen for father represents the physical body; whereas when its seen as Naisargic karaka 9 th Lord from it shows the father. Hope I got it right. Regards Sharat Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Michal,
My 2 cents…

Sthir karaka Sun when seen for father represents the physical body; whereas when its seen as Naisargic karaka 9 th Lord from it shows the father.

Hope I got it right.

Regards
Sharat

]]> By: Michal Dziwulski http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-446 Michal Dziwulski Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:11:46 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-446 [ Hare Rama Krsna ] Dear Visti, My mistake about the dates for Narayana Dasa. In fact it is totally precise. Though I was not aware about ignoring the rule about taking the 7th from dasa rasi in mundane charts. Thanks for the clarification about the karaka. So in Clinton's case since Saturn (naisargika karaka for night births) was afflicted he did not have a relationship with his biological father. And then also, since Venus (sthira karaka for night births) is also afflicted the body of his father was also comprimised. For day births Sun would play the role of both naisargika and sthira karaka, and so if afflicted, could cause either a lack of association or death of father. How could we discern between these two scenarios? Some other factors would need to be bought into play? Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

Dear Visti,

My mistake about the dates for Narayana Dasa. In fact it is totally precise. Though I was not aware about ignoring the rule about taking the 7th from dasa rasi in mundane charts.

Thanks for the clarification about the karaka. So in Clinton’s case since Saturn (naisargika karaka for night births) was afflicted he did not have a relationship with his biological father. And then also, since Venus (sthira karaka for night births) is also afflicted the body of his father was also comprimised.

For day births Sun would play the role of both naisargika and sthira karaka, and so if afflicted, could cause either a lack of association or death of father. How could we discern between these two scenarios? Some other factors would need to be bought into play?

Respectfully,
Michal

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-445 Visti Larsen Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:26:29 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-445 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Shiva, Namaskar I have talked about this in one of the past lectures on karaka. See when the Karaka is badly placed the native feels that they are not fully experiencing the results of the karaka. I.e. Mars in seventh makes the person feel that they are not practicing enough purity and chastity. Thus they feel uncomfortable in relationships. Venus in the sixth shows the opposite - they feel they are practicing too much purity/chastity. Yours sincerely, Visti हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear Shiva, Namaskar
I have talked about this in one of the past lectures on karaka. See when the Karaka is badly placed the native feels that they are not fully experiencing the results of the karaka. I.e. Mars in seventh makes the person feel that they are not practicing enough purity and chastity. Thus they feel uncomfortable in relationships. Venus in the sixth shows the opposite - they feel they are practicing too much purity/chastity.

Yours sincerely, Visti

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-444 Visti Larsen Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:21:07 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-444 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Michal, Namaskar Leo Narayana dasa was from 7th November 1982 to 7th November 1991. The source i have states: Brezhnev died 10th Nov 1982. Andropov died 9th Feb 1984 Chernenko died 10th March 1985. This data is collected from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The Dasarasi itself is always important to see in charts of those who associate with the public or in case of countries. Here we don't reverse the point of view. As for parents. The Sun/Venus principle is used for Sthira karakas, i.e. how long will the body of the father last. The Sun/Saturn principle is for Naisargika karakas and is based on the relationship we have towards our father. Hence Parasara uses the latter principle to ascertain where the father is at the time of birth. So in Clintons case we wanto see both 1) the lack of association with his biological father and 2) the fathers demise prior to his birth. Both are important. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen. हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear Michal, Namaskar
Leo Narayana dasa was from 7th November 1982 to 7th November 1991.
The source i have states:
Brezhnev died 10th Nov 1982.
Andropov died 9th Feb 1984
Chernenko died 10th March 1985.
This data is collected from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath.

The Dasarasi itself is always important to see in charts of those who associate with the public or in case of countries. Here we don’t reverse the point of view.

As for parents. The Sun/Venus principle is used for Sthira karakas, i.e. how long will the body of the father last.
The Sun/Saturn principle is for Naisargika karakas and is based on the relationship we have towards our father.
Hence Parasara uses the latter principle to ascertain where the father is at the time of birth.

So in Clintons case we wanto see both 1) the lack of association with his biological father and 2) the fathers demise prior to his birth. Both are important.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.

]]> By: Sharat http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-441 Sharat Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:58:25 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-441 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Michal, Parashara says to also see Saturn's placement for father for night births. Venus and Moon are seen for mother, for day and night births respectvely, thats how Visti explained to me sometime ago. Regards Sharat Hare Ram Krishna
Dear Michal,
Parashara says to also see Saturn’s placement for father for night births. Venus and Moon are seen for mother, for day and night births respectvely, thats how Visti explained to me sometime ago.
Regards
Sharat

]]> By: shiva http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-438 shiva Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:11:10 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/2007/03/04/marana-karaka-sthana/#comment-438 dear vistiji, annaji and others I am curious to know how venus is 6th manifests in life on a social level. Does it just problems just in sexuality or also in interpersonal relationships, with colleagues etc. Does the native not have a refined sense of beauty, arts etc. ? Thanks Shiva dear vistiji, annaji and others
I am curious to know how venus is 6th manifests in life on a social level. Does it just problems just in sexuality or also in interpersonal relationships, with colleagues etc. Does the native not have a refined sense of beauty, arts etc. ?

Thanks
Shiva

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