Comments on: Naisargikakaraka http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/ Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) resource for articles, lessons, discussions, consultations and news based in Frederiksberg, Denmark: devoted to the teaching and practice of Vedic Astrology. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Satish http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/#comment-3310 Satish Tue, 06 May 2008 17:52:40 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=83#comment-3310 Dear VISTI - Namaste. Recently i listen to you & sanjayji both on CURSES topic. In his lectures on curses in 2004 london con. sanjayji had given order of benifics for curses as - Jup mer ven moon & last as sun. In your's it is - Jup ven full moon mer & last sun. Your's is correct as ven is AsurGuru,Sattwaguni & Rushiputra. While Mer is born through illicit,immoral relationship,Rajas,Vaishya,Pruthvitattwa. It seems you are right. But you always say that you learn JYOTISH from Shrisanjayji. So why so much difference? All remedies will be different if we compare same charts for Curses by applying order of you both. SO PLEASE CLEAR CONFUSION. Regards. Satish. Dear VISTI - Namaste.
Recently i listen to you & sanjayji both on CURSES topic. In his lectures on curses in 2004 london con. sanjayji had given order of benifics for curses as - Jup mer ven moon & last as sun.
In your’s it is - Jup ven full moon mer & last sun. Your’s is correct as ven is AsurGuru,Sattwaguni & Rushiputra.
While Mer is born through illicit,immoral relationship,Rajas,Vaishya,Pruthvitattwa. It seems you are right. But you always say that you learn JYOTISH from Shrisanjayji. So why so much difference?
All remedies will be different if we compare same charts for Curses by applying order of you both. SO PLEASE CLEAR CONFUSION.
Regards.
Satish.

]]> By: manasi http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/#comment-3234 manasi Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:57:35 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=83#comment-3234 vistiji, namaskar i have capricorn ascendent and moon is chara atmakaraka. moon is in 8th house in leo. mars in 1st house and saturn in 11th house and jupiter is in 2nd house. all this three planet aspect the moon. so is it curse of mother? i have sun in 9th house with ketu so sun is also affected. what can be the result of this curse and what should i do? my birth date is 2nd oct 1986. birth time is 15:48 and birth place is Dhrangadhra, gujarat. vistiji,
namaskar
i have capricorn ascendent and moon is chara atmakaraka.
moon is in 8th house in leo. mars in 1st house and saturn in 11th house and jupiter is in 2nd house. all this three planet aspect the moon. so is it curse of mother? i have sun in 9th house with ketu so sun is also affected. what can be the result of this curse and what should i do?
my birth date is 2nd oct 1986. birth time is 15:48 and birth place is Dhrangadhra, gujarat.

]]> By: priya http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/#comment-2375 priya Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:38:52 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=83#comment-2375 Namaskar Visti-ji, I was born on the 23rd of November 1970 at 2130 (+7.30 GMT).Place 101'43'E :3'9"N. My Jupiter in the 5th forms a raja yoga with Venus in Libra. Rahu and Saturn being co-rulers of 9th house aquarius are also forming raja yoga with Jupiter via drishti......atleast that is my inference. At the same time Rahu and Saturn drishti means that Jupiter and Venus in Libra are cursed. Can you please explain to me if the same malefics can give both raja yoga and curse at the same time???? Is my Libra bhava an auspicious or inauspicious one...Is Venus still auspicious for me? What about Jupiter, Rahu and Saturn? Thank you. Namaskar Visti-ji,
I was born on the 23rd of November 1970 at 2130 (+7.30 GMT).Place 101′43′E :3′9″N. My Jupiter in the 5th forms a raja yoga with Venus in Libra. Rahu and Saturn being co-rulers of 9th house aquarius are also forming raja yoga with Jupiter via drishti……atleast that is my inference. At the same time Rahu and Saturn drishti means that Jupiter and Venus in Libra are cursed. Can you please explain to me if the same malefics can give both raja yoga and curse at the same time???? Is my Libra bhava an auspicious or inauspicious one…Is Venus still auspicious for me? What about Jupiter, Rahu and Saturn? Thank you.

]]> By: Reema Sriganesh http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/#comment-1966 Reema Sriganesh Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:07:33 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=83#comment-1966 || Hare Rama Krushna || Namaskaar Visti Ji, While going through these lectures, the only thing that is not very clear to me is the difference between a planet's presence in 6th versus its presence in the 8th house from the Karaka. Yes, in either case it is bad. But what is the difference between 6th and 8th? You said something about a planet in 6th forcing one to give? But what exactly is it that one is giving? You did mention Shadripu in this context, but it is not very clear to me. You also said something about a planet in 8th forcing one to receive. Again, what exactly is it that one is receiving? Also, does a Kroora planet versus Saumya planet make a difference in the experience of the native? For example having Saturn in 6th versus having Moon in 6th from Venus would make a difference in the experience. But to what extent? Thank you! May Sri Vishnu bless us all, Reema. || Hare Rama Krushna ||

Namaskaar Visti Ji,

While going through these lectures, the only thing that is not very clear to me is the difference between a planet’s presence in 6th versus its presence in the 8th house from the Karaka. Yes, in either case it is bad. But what is the difference between 6th and 8th? You said something about a planet in 6th forcing one to give? But what exactly is it that one is giving? You did mention Shadripu in this context, but it is not very clear to me. You also said something about a planet in 8th forcing one to receive. Again, what exactly is it that one is receiving?

Also, does a Kroora planet versus Saumya planet make a difference in the experience of the native? For example having Saturn in 6th versus having Moon in 6th from Venus would make a difference in the experience. But to what extent?

Thank you!

May Sri Vishnu bless us all,
Reema.

]]> By: Visti Larsen http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/#comment-319 Visti Larsen Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:54:03 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=83#comment-319 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Tarun, Namaskar Wait for the next class where I will give the method of selecting remedies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen. हरे राम कृष्ण॥
Dear Tarun, Namaskar
Wait for the next class where I will give the method of selecting remedies.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.

]]> By: Tarun Garg http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2006/03/04/naisargikakaraka/#comment-315 Tarun Garg Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:52:26 +0000 http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=83#comment-315 Respected Visti Ji, This is regarding two cases of Shapa that i have come accross where the moola dasa is working classically and the chorology of events is exactly as the dasas are unfolding. i would be grateful if you could comment on the same. Case 1: Male Date: October 21, 1970 Time: 22:08:00 Time Zone: 5:03:00 (East of GMT) Place: 75 E 43' 00", 29 N 10' 00" Hissar, India The Planet Placements are summerised under lagna is Gemini, Chandra in Lagna, Ke 3rd house, Ma 4th, Ju,Me, Su(Neecha) in 5th, Ve in 6th(MKS), Ra in 9th (MKS), Sa(Ret)(neecha) in 11th. Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): Rah MD: 2003-10-22 (9:10:01) - 2009-10-21 (21:57:36) Antardasas in this MD: Rah: 2003-10-22 (9:10:01) - 2004-05-25 (10:35:00) Ket: 2004-05-25 (10:35:00) - 2004-10-21 (15:11:30) Ven: 2004-10-21 (15:11:30) - 2005-09-15 (7:49:54) Mars: 2005-09-15 (7:49:54) - 2006-05-25 (22:53:19) Moon: 2006-05-25 (22:53:19) - 2006-07-02 (14:37:47) Jup: 2006-07-02 (14:37:47) - 2007-11-27 (6:25:12) Merc: 2007-11-27 (6:25:12) - 2008-07-02 (3:03:08) Sun: 2008-07-02 (3:03:08) - 2008-10-21 (16:00:52) Sat: 2008-10-21 (16:00:52) - 2009-10-21 (21:57:36) With the start of the Rahu Mahadasa, the native's father died, Ra in 9th house (MKS) and aspects A9 placed in Ge. Ra is the strongest malefic that is involved in the curse of a brahmin in 5th house (Ra/Sa/Su/Ju) with Ve the lord of the house in MKS. (well the narayana dasa is of capricorn and somehow that did not fit well with the MKS of Venus) The death of the father came as a very big shock to the person and he went into alchohol addiction (Sa) and extreme depression. He lost his Job (Ju is 10th lord in a curse) and his wife threw him out of the house for allegations of domestic violence (7th house), Ma in 4th. Ra-Ju is running now and the native has been in Jail for a while due to a conspiracy against him involving his wife and her family especially father-in-law(9th lord from ul, ve in MKS and dispositor of Ju). Now the native is separated from his kids (5th house), spouse (7th house) and has no job(10th house). The analysis fits perfectly, but i dont know the remedy as usual. karaka is Ju and he is involved in the curse. 10th karaka is Me and he is in curse Rasi too, 7th Karaka is Ve and he is in MKS. so cant use any karakas. Lord of the Bhava is Ve and already in MKS so dont work too.. I have just told the native to do Samba Sada Shivaya Mantra every day and rama chamnudi mantra in rahu Kalam on saturdays to ease of the Rahu effects. what else could I suggest? The second case Female Date: June 5, 1985 Time: 10:10:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 75 E 10' 00", 30 N 48' 00" Moga, India planetary Placements are summerized as under karaka Lagna, LL in 6th house, Ke/sa(ret)(exh) in 4th house. Ra/Ve in 10th house, Me/su in 11th house, Ma in 12th house. No Planets in MKS but curse of a spouse exists in the chart. Ve aspected by Sa/Ra Saturn is Retrograde and the strongest Malefic so it will deliver the curse. Native started Saturn Moola Dasa from 2001. Native met with a terrible accident in 2004. Ra - Ke Dasa. Ke is afflicting the 4th hhouse whose Karaka is in a curse. Ve(Karaka for Vehicles). she had her leg operated and a Steel rod was put in it. She still limps a bit (10th house is the cursed place). In sa-ra she left her home and came to australia to study (ra(foriegn) aspecting 4th house of education and Sa causing her to leave home like Sri rama). The real suffering started in Ra-Ve where she recieved the news that her mother had breast cancer, Ve(4th lord) Ra(cancer) and also her elder sister(ve is 11th lord) is having problems with her blood circulation and she has to undergo major surgery. The native is under immense tension. Now the difficult part, remedies. Here the lord of the 10th house is in the 12th hhouse so badly placed. The Karaka of the 10th house Me is in the 11th house in a Bhudha-aditya yoga and also the sun 2nd lord in 11th house is quite strong. i have asked her to donate lakshami - Narayan idols to a temple and proper pujan there. also donate beds to newly wedded couple. Is there anything else she can do? I know that you dont like to suggest mantras over public forums, you can mail me incase you deem necessary. Your comments on the above cases would be extremely helpful for my learning process. Regards Tarun Respected Visti Ji,

This is regarding two cases of Shapa that i have come accross where the moola dasa is working classically and the chorology of events is exactly as the dasas are unfolding. i would be grateful if you could comment on the same.

Case 1:
Male
Date: October 21, 1970
Time: 22:08:00
Time Zone: 5:03:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 75 E 43′ 00″, 29 N 10′ 00″
Hissar, India

The Planet Placements are summerised under
lagna is Gemini, Chandra in Lagna, Ke 3rd house, Ma 4th, Ju,Me, Su(Neecha) in 5th, Ve in 6th(MKS), Ra in 9th (MKS), Sa(Ret)(neecha) in 11th.

Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma):

Rah MD: 2003-10-22 (9:10:01) - 2009-10-21 (21:57:36)

Antardasas in this MD:

Rah: 2003-10-22 (9:10:01) - 2004-05-25 (10:35:00)
Ket: 2004-05-25 (10:35:00) - 2004-10-21 (15:11:30)
Ven: 2004-10-21 (15:11:30) - 2005-09-15 (7:49:54)
Mars: 2005-09-15 (7:49:54) - 2006-05-25 (22:53:19)
Moon: 2006-05-25 (22:53:19) - 2006-07-02 (14:37:47)
Jup: 2006-07-02 (14:37:47) - 2007-11-27 (6:25:12)
Merc: 2007-11-27 (6:25:12) - 2008-07-02 (3:03:08)
Sun: 2008-07-02 (3:03:08) - 2008-10-21 (16:00:52)
Sat: 2008-10-21 (16:00:52) - 2009-10-21 (21:57:36)

With the start of the Rahu Mahadasa, the native’s father died, Ra in 9th house (MKS) and aspects A9 placed in Ge. Ra is the strongest malefic that is involved in the curse of a brahmin in 5th house (Ra/Sa/Su/Ju) with Ve the lord of the house in MKS. (well the narayana dasa is of capricorn and somehow that did not fit well with the MKS of Venus) The death of the father came as a very big shock to the person and he went into alchohol addiction (Sa) and extreme depression. He lost his Job (Ju is 10th lord in a curse) and his wife threw him out of the house for allegations of domestic violence (7th house), Ma in 4th. Ra-Ju is running now and the native has been in Jail for a while due to a conspiracy against him involving his wife and her family especially father-in-law(9th lord from ul, ve in MKS and dispositor of Ju). Now the native is separated from his kids (5th house), spouse (7th house) and has no job(10th house).

The analysis fits perfectly, but i dont know the remedy as usual. karaka is Ju and he is involved in the curse. 10th karaka is Me and he is in curse Rasi too, 7th Karaka is Ve and he is in MKS. so cant use any karakas. Lord of the Bhava is Ve and already in MKS so dont work too.. I have just told the native to do Samba Sada Shivaya Mantra every day and rama chamnudi mantra in rahu Kalam on saturdays to ease of the Rahu effects. what else could I suggest?

The second case
Female

Date: June 5, 1985
Time: 10:10:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 75 E 10′ 00″, 30 N 48′ 00″
Moga, India

planetary Placements are summerized as under

karaka Lagna, LL in 6th house, Ke/sa(ret)(exh) in 4th house. Ra/Ve in 10th house, Me/su in 11th house, Ma in 12th house.

No Planets in MKS but curse of a spouse exists in the chart. Ve aspected by Sa/Ra Saturn is Retrograde and the strongest Malefic so it will deliver the curse. Native started Saturn Moola Dasa from 2001. Native met with a terrible accident in 2004. Ra - Ke Dasa. Ke is afflicting the 4th hhouse whose Karaka is in a curse. Ve(Karaka for Vehicles). she had her leg operated and a Steel rod was put in it. She still limps a bit (10th house is the cursed place). In sa-ra she left her home and came to australia to study (ra(foriegn) aspecting 4th house of education and Sa causing her to leave home like Sri rama). The real suffering started in Ra-Ve where she recieved the news that her mother had breast cancer, Ve(4th lord) Ra(cancer) and also her elder sister(ve is 11th lord) is having problems with her blood circulation and she has to undergo major surgery. The native is under immense tension.

Now the difficult part, remedies. Here the lord of the 10th house is in the 12th hhouse so badly placed. The Karaka of the 10th house Me is in the 11th house in a Bhudha-aditya yoga and also the sun 2nd lord in 11th house is quite strong. i have asked her to donate lakshami - Narayan idols to a temple and proper pujan there. also donate beds to newly wedded couple. Is there anything else she can do?

I know that you dont like to suggest mantras over public forums, you can mail me incase you deem necessary.

Your comments on the above cases would be extremely helpful for my learning process.

Regards

Tarun

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