What about the planets which are not in trine but have a rashi drishti on lagna or any of the trine?

Regards

nimisha

According to your lectures on d-9 the abilities are seen from trines. But what is KRAMA here? How we judge strength of these trines ? Which one should be the strongest? PLEASE explain.
Regards.
Satish.

While going through your previous posts I came across a reply of yours ..”.. Why not suit the mantras to the individual chart? First decide whether you want your Ishta devata to manifest physically in your life (rasi) or more in the realm of spirituality (navamsa).
Then see the house of your Ishta devata and choose a mantra with as many aksharas as that house. I.e. for Ishta devata in eleventh house chose an eleven syllable or 23 syllable (11+12) mantra.
The number of words in the mantra can be chosen based on the sign of your atmakaraka in rasi/navamsa - depending on the choice made as above. This way your Atma will move towards the Ishta. Some people prefer the opposite, i.e. Ishta should meet their Atma. This is the essential difference between the PERSONAL dvaita and advaita concept.”..

So if I understand it correctly then its best to choose the number of aksharas of mantra corresponding to the sign placement of the planet representing Istha devata from the karakamsa or karaka lagna? Not the navamsa lagna or rasi lagna right?

Again tallying this with your lecture on Ketu, if the planet joined ketu or depositing ketu has no connection to either of ID, DD or PD then is it advisible to pray or chant mantras for that deity?

2)In one of the posts above you had mentioned that jup being the second lord from UL, gettign children becomes important for sustaining marriage? I was wondering that jupiter is also the spiritual planet, so if both of the partners get involved in spirituality seriously will it help to sustain?
In the following chart 16th Mar 1971, 3:40pm benaras(83E, 25N22)..(CANCER LAGNA, TULA RASI).. the person is in her 3rd major relationship, so scorpio with jupiter is the UL, mars is second from UL in sagitarius. Now the two partners do not plan on children but they spend most part of their time visting pilgrimages and doing sadhana together. There seems to be no probelms in the relationship as such. Is it because of the spiritual orientation? Kindly enlighten me on the logic.

3) You had mentioned once taht if the UL lord and AL lord become same planet, or UL lord is also lord of 2nd house from lagna then fasting on that day is not adviced. So what should one do incase UL and AL lord are same.

-Thanks in advance
Regards
Rajarshi

I have Ketu- Venus and Buddha placed in the trines to navamansa. Also, I have both Sun and Moon debilitated in the navamsa chart while they are in their own sign in the rashi. Now am I correct to assume that this would mean that I would miss a lot of ‘fame’/glamor and peace in my life on account of their debilitation. What is worrying me even more is that since the navamsa takes over in the late 20’s early 30’s I feel my life is going to be tougher. What is your opinion?

I do have a parivatan yoga in the namansa chart between sun and venus - will this abate the loss of good yogas in the navamansa. Also, could the moon debilitated in the navansa in the 8th house mean a painful death with prolonged illness?

Lastly, curiously enough i have the yoga with the lagnesha - i.e the depositor of the lagnasha in rashi i.e moon and depositor of moon in navamnsa i.e mars are placed in kendra in the rashi. Is this supposed to bring any rajayoga. According to your Lagnesha article - with such a yoga every wish will get fulfilled? Is this true?

Here are my details:
6th September 1980
10: 12 AM
Varanasi, India

I apprecite your taking the time to clarify.
Warm regards,
Bheebhatsu

If the lord of the 2nd from upapada is 8th to itself and there are no planets in the 2nd from upapada what does it indicate regarding sustenance of the marriage? Please give your opinion.

Thank You,
Rupa.

if upapada is in aquarius and pisces has rahu in the it then ignoring other considerations it should be a decent combination to help the relationship last. am i right?

am i right in my thinking that atmakaraka in the second from the upapada or conjoining the lord of the second from the upapada would mean that the person would try really hard to help the relationship last and would manage to do that eventually?

if the lord of the upapada is debilitated then its bad for the longevity of the relationship. but what are the effects if the lord of the second from the upapada is debilitated. i think it mainly indicates the diseases which the partner would have to face and does not affect the longevity of the relationship as such. is it so?

fasting on the days of the upapada is advised to maintain the relationship and other reasons. so if the person is in his or her 2nd or 3rd relationship then is fasting on the day of the lord lording the 2nd or 3rd upapada advised instead of fasting on the day of the first upapada?

thanks for enlightening me with your invaluable answers.
Rishabh

So essentially the spouse must fully embody the qualities of the specific planet involved, here Rahu. So conjunction with the Upapada, or if the Upapada is unoccupied, then joined the lord or lording.

Just as Rahu and Jupiter don’t go along well with each other, there are other planetary mismatches which cause these issues.

Yours sincerely, Visti

Rishabh
Jupiters positions here ensures that once children come into the picture the marriage cannot break.

Lemna
The best dasa system for marriage is the naisargika dasa. Do analyze it.

Yours sincerely, Visti.

Very true about Bhutto, that was her Karma after all..
My Saturn is always there giggling at me,and for that I have to chant the mantra given by you, I will try again, please give me some time..
So mercury antardasha is a good time for marriage, but there is also a destined time, thats a very good thing to know, but I believe the destined time wouldn’t be that far from mercury antardasha as the mercury antardasha itself will last till for about 3 years..
What would you say about this?
I’m still stuck on the grahas in the dristi lecture, it will take
alot of time to understand astrology, as it is too deep.Thats how I feel.
Awaiting your kind response.
Thank you always.

Warm Regards,
Lemna.

Rishabh
When Venus sustains marriage he requires physical intimacy. If this is not provided in the marriage then the partners may go elsewhere to attain this. Keep this in mind.

Lemna
Everything is due to our own karma alone. Spiritual people like to repeat this truth but very few remember it when staring troubles in the eye. So yes, even your troubles are due to your own karma, but your real question is: who will be blamed for it in this life? I.e. if Bhutto was killed in a bomb blast everyone is looking towards terrorists to blame. But truth is that Bhutto needed the bombers to fulfil her karma of dying in such an event.

So, if you ask who will be blamed, then in your case the second from Upapada being lorded by Saturn would only let the blame fall on fate as health is difficult for other people to influence.
But this is what the remedy is for, isn’t it?

Mercury antaradasa is a good time for marriage, but are you sure you will marry during this time? Good time and destined time are two separate questions. Study the Naisargika dasa for this.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.

After all my Atmakaraka is also there building up my problems.
Even though I will get a nice husband, my atmakaraka , saturn will destroy the relationship, and when you say health problems and disputes will come up, all cause will be due to me and only me right?
It would be really great if you could share me something on this. Mercury antardasha would be a very good time for profession, but would it also be a nice opportunity for my marriage.

Thank you always.

Warm Regards,
Lemna.

Rishabh
More planets indicates more abilities. This also grants good intellect. What do you think of the persons married life based on the chart?

Arnab
Just as beejakshara is for babies, the mala mantra is for wizards. So also the stages of spiritual initiation involve the increasing of the mantra-syllables. This is an important part of the Parampara, and i recommend you join the Jaimini course if you are serious about learning such subjects.

As for the fourth from Karakamsa, you are correct that this shows the Gati of the native. But if the person has durgati then this causes complication and this manifests first in health problems to the body. Therefore in such cases the native must worship Durga in the form of the malefic planets… We advise mahavidya for this.

Shivam
So i guess nodes should be on your navamsa lagna. Your lack of interest in martial arts can simply be a time-factor as the traits of the navamsa and trines are indeed dependant on WHEN the interest is sparked in the native.

The Udu-Dasa variations are very much dependant on the persons perception of the world. A strong Jupiter or Moon in the chart will promote the use of Narayana and Vimshottari dasa respectively. But Shatabdika will indeed work.

Lemna
The mantra i gave you was specifically for your atmakaraka and will liberate you from many issues. Further, deciding who will live and who won’t is not decided solely by Saturns lordship of Upapada. If so then Jyotish just would be too simple.

The mantra i gave you will give you all that you want. You must just ask. In this try to forget what you ‘dont’ want.

SS

Paul
When you read the Pravrajya-yoga section of BPHS you see that Parasara mentions two types of Pravrajya yoga. One formed by Saturn associated with Moon and one by Mars associated with Moon.
The two paths are that of overcoming impurity (Saturn) and overcoming violence (Mars).
Whilst both are integral parts of all spiritual paths, the path of overcoming Mars is quite popular among the countries influenced by Buddhism.

Mars is the violence, whilst Mercury is the non-violence approach… Mercury hates fighting. Jupiter specifically promotes peace and is the higher octave of Mercury where wisdom becomes important. Instead Mercury just sees violence as an obstruction to learning. Further Mercury gives interest in Yoga.
So, expect either Mars or Mercury to be in trines to the navamsa
If its Mars then the motivation is to practice non-violence, and if its Mercury then the motivation is to improve the body.
THEN! See these planets in the Rasi to see the exact motivation for this activity, i.e. did the person join a monastery or is it just a pasttime?
Finally, we can also check all these placements from the karakamsa itself to see the attitude to the activity. I.e. many with Mars/Mercury in second to karakamsa would get involved in such activities as they can’t help but feed that activity - i.e. donate money or spend time with the activity.
This way we can see alot.

Khushee
Your question needs a very firm clarification.
Parents cannot be correctly investigated from the Navamsa chart. Just forget any such analysis. Except if we are talking of a Prasna chart where the divisional charts act differently. But you can see inlaws from the D9 chart. Treat the seventh house as lagna for this.
Analyze parrents from the Rasi, D12, d40 and d45 charts. I find that this analysis is more than enough.

Yours sincerely, Visti

- Am I I correct that one of the things to check is… first look at the the 5th and 9th lords in D9.
- You then see how these planets are placed in the rasi chart…if well placed eg exhalted then the relationship is beneficial to the individual.
If debilitated or badly placed then the relationship is harmful?

If my above understanding is correct, and if the D9 ninth lord (ie father) is debilitated in the 8th house in rasi chart AND it is Saturn, then what can be done to minimise the damage to the individual, especially if it is still a young child??

What other things should be looked at?
Thank you
Khushee

1. Clear now.
2. Very interesting to ponder on Who would (need to) approach Whom. Personally, dvaita and advaita both fit well and also that the Supreme is Both and Neither.

Thanx again,
SS.

I got another finding from a book on Jaimini Sutra, regarding UL,
since my second house lord from the UL in rasi chart is Saturn and also Saturn happens to be my Atmakaraka, does it mean that I will have no husband in the latter part of the life(although the book says no wife).What does it signify?
Thank you always.

Warm Regards,
Lemna.

Thank you very much for your clarification.I’m glad to know about my destined partner, but my 2nd lord Saturn from UL, will be working on breaking our relationship.So from that do you see divorce, or 2nd marriage?I never want to ever think about it, since I have had enough of my life.You said there is a good mantra. Since when should I chant it,would you recommend from mercury antardasha or before that?
I’m looking for your lecture on dristi, is it in this Navamsa article or some other?
Thank you always.

Warm Regards ,
Lemna.

Dear VistiJi,
Thank you for your kind guidence. My birth is forceps birth only. As well, I am short tempered too, this increased during last few mounts (mars retro in gemini, my navamansha lagana and rashi lagna too), but I dont seem to have any interest in martial art. Furthermore if I try to analyse the nakhsatra based dasha system in my chart then vimshottari seems to work better than shatabdika, but according to my chart being vargottama navamansha shatabdika should work better. That leads me into a lot of confusion about my navamansha being accurate. Please guide.

Thanks,
Shivam

dear Visti ji,
1] Could you please throw some light on the use of malamantra for the Ishta or any specific devta in the navamsa.When is the mala mantra used.

2] Please correct me here,Doesnt 4th karkamsa shows the grace of mother as said
||Gatistvam gatistvam tvameka bhavani||..Could you please ellaborate on this further.Does praying to mother or mahavidya rupa of the planet aspecting the 4th from karkams by rashi dristi helps the native go towards his ID. I saw in the charts of Sri Ramakrishna,Maa Anandomoyi,Sri Lahiri Mahasaya,Sri RamanMaharshi,Swami Vivekananda.All have planets aspecting the 4th from ak by strong venus or moon or are conjoined there.Kindly guide on this .
Also does ak aspecting the 4th from it does it means the native also is aware of the path to walk on.

Must say even your posts with respect to replying other people is a learning experience for me.God bless.Thank you.

your eternal well-wisher,
arnab

Rupa
Glad to hear that we have the right navamsa for you.
Fourth house in navamsa when housing malefics can give diseases. The TB could not be avoided because of Mars, but otherwise should have been mild.

Soul Sadhak
1. Always choose the strongest planet. First see the sign-dignity as being exalted, own sign, etc. If you cannot reach a decission at this point, then check degrees.

2. Why not suit the mantras to the individual chart? First decide whether you want your Ishta devata to manifest physically in your life (rasi) or more in the realm of spirituality (navamsa).
Then see the house of your Ishta devata and choose a mantra with as many aksharas as that house. I.e. for Ishta devata in eleventh house chose an eleven syllable or 23 syllable (11+12) mantra.
The number of words in the mantra can be chosen based on the sign of your atmakaraka in rasi/navamsa - depending on the choice made as above. This way your Atma will move towards the Ishta. Some people prefer the opposite, i.e. Ishta should meet their Atma. This is the essential difference between the PERSONAL dvaita and advaita concept.

Lemna
The second from upapada sustains the marriage. If its Saturn then Saturn will require hard work to sustain the marriage.
As a result if things are left to sustain themselves, then Saturn will let the hard workers get stressed due to health problems and possible sorrow due to not meeting their own expectations. This would then be the issues bothering the relationship itself. Luckily this can easily be solved with good mantras.
Jupiter definitely shows a very nice and sensible spouse. Very balanced person in general and having good moral conduct.
Do check out my lectures on dristi to learn more about it.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

Thank you always for your kind concern.
Though I found out only a few things regarding my marriage,it’s not too deep either.My 7th house Navamsa lord is Jupiter(if I am correct), in Saggitarius.From here, does it mean that my partner will be a sensible, understanding and a pure human being? Also my lord of the 2nd house from UL in rasi chart(is navamsa chart considered in this matter also?) is Saturn.What does this Saturn signify?Is it true that Jupiter is aspected by or is aspecting the 2nd house lord from UL(Saturn) in the rasi chart?
Though my Navamsa as well as some divisional charts charts will drastically change if rectification is needed.
My birth details are as follows:
D.O.B:29th September,1982
T.O.B:12:37 pm(standard time)
P.O.B:Yamato city(Kanagawa prefecture),Japan.
Awaiting your kind response.

Warm Regards,
Lemna.

1. If the planet indicating ID conjons more than 1 planet, then which one to choose? e.g. as in example above, if Sa had conjoined Ju and say Ma - which one wud be it - would we see their longitude in rasi?

2. For Vishnu form of DD, are there 9-syllable mantras to be used (like there are 12-syllable mantras for Visnhu form as ID)?

Many thanx
SS