Navamsa
Introduction to the Navamsa, again in the english language. Focus is on the meaning of the kendras and their trikonas. The definition of the Sva-amsa and how to use it from navamsa lagna and karakamsa. The method to find the Ishta and Dharma devata.
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March 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 am
Radhe krishna,
sir your lecture on navamsa is great. I request you to clarify one point in my navamsa chart. i have mars in lag(cancer-nav),
mer-libr,rahu-sco,sun-sag,jup-ven in aqu,moon in pisc,sat in tau,ketu in tau.
some of the points you mentioned matches with this.
But mars in 1,5,9 says learn martial arts and i havent been in that martial art field in any way. Also i dont know abt position of rahu-ketu,its confusing. So how to rectify can u give some information on it or any website/article which can help me
ganga
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Dear Ganga, Namaskar
Its because of Mars’ debility that you didn’t learn martial arts. When these planets in trikona are weak the person isn’t able to fully pursue their indications.
Nodes indicate math ability where Rahu shows a person who can make out intricate plans in their mind and are always looking towards the future for their plans to be fulfilled.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:21 am
Sir,
Can’t open/play any of the navamsa lecture mp3s. There seems to be some problem with them. Just wanted to bring it to your attention.
Shivani.
October 29th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Respected Sir Visti,
I have a humble question about determining my Ishta Devata
and the right mantra for that.
I was trying to apply the concepts you taught in these lectures
on my own chart, but lost the way in confusion. Can you kindly have a look and advise and help me understand the reasoning behind it.
My AK is Venus, placed in D-9 in Libra. It’s 12th house, Virgo,
has Jupiter and Ketu in D-9 lagna.
So as I understand, Jupiter or Ketu should be my Ishta Devata.
Now, I have three confusions.
The first confusion is to determine which of them
is stronger, because:
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1) Jupiter is debilitated in Virgo
2) But, Jupiter has Parivartana Yoga with Mercury in pisces
in D-9
3) Jupiter is AMK (second highest in Degree)
Second confusion: the right mantra for Jupiter.
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In one of your blogs, I found that you mentioned of
“Om Gurave Namah”. In this lecture, your recommended “Om Bhur Bhoobhaswa Shambhu Sadashivay namah” (the spelling may be incorrect). So, which one should I follow? Or should Ketu be considered as Ishta Devata ?
The third confusion:
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In my D-20, the lagna is Gemini and 5th lord venus is in lagna
while the lagna lord Mercury is in Taurus, forming Parivartana
Yoga. So, should Venus / Mercury be considered instead for
chanting mantras for Ishta Devata.
My birth details are:
__________________________
Date: May 15, 1976
Time: 6:43:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 88 E 21′ 00″, 22 N 38′ 00″
Baranagar, Kolkata, India
Tithi: Krishna Dwitiya
Vedic Weekday: Saturday
Nakshatra: Jyeshtha
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Can you please advise.
Regards
Nabatanu
October 30th, 2007 at 7:15 am
OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA
Dear Guru ji, Namaskar.
Dear Nabatanu Das ji, Namaskar. With Guru ji’s permission let me try to help you as well myself to understand the problem in finding Ista devata.
Apart from other known things to you, difficulty in finding the strongest planet among Jupiter and Ketu is due to the mistake that Jupiter is debilitated in Virgo (Only Venus gets debilitated here) and carried over by other thoughts like parivarthana.
As you have mentioned if Jupiter is AMK then it is stronger than Ketu in 12H from AK in D9 chart. Now you can safely infer that Jupiter is your Ista devata. Then coming to Ketu it is Veda murti/gyana karaka conjoining Jupiter providing information regarding mien of Guru. We can also consider the aspects of other planets for miens. Thus this information indicates Guru Dakshnamoorty as Ishta devata. This placement in earthy sign (Virgo)shows North as Ishta devata direction. I hope that this information will be helpful for you. Rest in Guru ji’s words.
With respects to Guru ji
Yours sincerely,
shishya dheena
October 30th, 2007 at 9:41 am
Respected dheena-ji, Namaskar.
Thank you very much for your kind help and explanations.
I now understand Ju is my Ishta Devata so far as
D-9 is concerned.
I have one query on “mien” of other planet aspects.
You mentioned “We can also consider the aspects of
other planets for miens.”.
Does it mean considering Rahu dristi and Mercury dristi from Pisces for this case ?
If so, which deity form do they signify here?
My sincere apologies for not understanding clearly
#2 (on the right mantra for Ju) and
#3 (how D-20 is to be looked upon in Deity determination).
On #2, I have a question here.
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Since you mention Dakshnamoorty is my Ishta devata,
so which mantra should I recite and how many times.
I have a little complication here.
Being from Bengal and an ex-student of Ramkrishna Misssion,
I have faith in “Mother Goddess”, “Hanumanji”, “Lord Krishna”
and “Lord Shiva” (obviously most faith in Videkanda, Ramakrishna
and Ma Sarada and I visualize them as God reincarnations). Unfortunately I have little idea about Dakshnamoorty.
So, can you please advise me some mantra
that aligns to my faith while being consistent with my Ishta Devata.
On #3, my question is:
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Can you please tell me the role of D-20 in respect of
Ishta Devata determination and its mantra (implications of 5th lord, 9th lord etc. in D-20), taking my case as an example?
Or is it that D-20 has a completely different purpose?
Does D-9 and D-20 have no correlation from spiritual perspective?
Can you please elaborate a little bit on that or give some reference to some articles / books that clarify the concept of 5th and 9th lord in D-20 clearly.
With sincere regards
Nabatanu
October 30th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
** Re-post as the previous one vanished **
Respected dheena-ji, Namaskar.
Thank you very much for your kind help and explanations.
I now understand Ju is my Ishta Devata so far as
D-9 is concerned. Thanks a lot for that.
I have one query on “mien” of other planet aspects.
You mentioned “We can also consider the aspects of
other planets for miens.”.
Does it mean considering Rahu dristi and Mercury dristi from Pisces for this case ?
If so, which deity form do they signify here?
My sincere apologies for not understanding clearly
#2 (the right mantra for Ju) and
#3 (how D-20 is to be looked upon in Deity determination).
On #2, I have a question here.
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Since you mention Dakshnamoorty is my Ishta devata,
so which mantra should I recite and how many times.
I have a little complication here.
Being from Bengal and an ex-student of Ramkrishna Misssion,
I have faith in “Mother Goddess”, “Lord Krishna”
and “Lord Shiva” (obviously most faith in Videkanda, Ramakrishna
and Ma Sarada and I visualize them as God reincarnations). Unfortunately, I have very little idea about Dakshnamoorty.
So, can you please advise me some mantra
that aligns to my faith while being consistent with my Ishta Devata.
On #3, my question is:
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Can you please tell me the role of D-20 in respect of
Ishta Devata determination and its mantra (implications of 5th lord, 9th lord etc. in D-20), taking my case as an example?
Or is it that D-20 has a completely different purpose?
Does D-9 and D-20 have no correlation from spiritual perspective?
Can you please elaborate a little bit on that or give some reference to some articles / books that clarify the concept of 5th and 9th lord in D-20 clearly.
With sincere regards
Nabatanu
October 30th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Shishya deena or Vistiji,
Is it a rule that all people who have Jupiter in the 12th house from Atmakaraka in D-9 will have Guru Dakshinamurthy as the ishta devatha?
I have Jupiter in Pisces in the 12th house from my Atmakaraka Saturn in Navamsa.
October 31st, 2007 at 4:58 am
*** My last two posts vanished. So, re-posting ***
Respected Visti ji, dheena ji, Namaskar.
Thank you very much for your kind answer.
I had posted yesterday some more questions - but for some
reason, they do not show up here.
I am briefing it once again.
1) I have a similar question like “srini rajitha” ji.
Personally, I have faith in Mother Goddess (Ma Kali),
Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna and have little idea about “Guru Dakshinamurthy” to form emotional attachment with.
Can you kindly recommend a suitable mantra that aligns
with my faith and at the same time helps me worship my Ishta Devata?
2) What implication does D-20 have w.r.t. determination of Ishta Devata? Does it not have any correlation with D-9 for this aspect?
Can you kindly throw some light on this, taking my case as an example. I am a bit confused about D-20 and D-9 when they
deal with the same aspect - spirituality.
With best regards
Nabatanu
October 31st, 2007 at 8:49 am
** My 4th attempt to post a reply **
Respected shishya dheena ji, Visti-ji,
Thanks for taking time to answer my queries.
Will you mind helping me clear some doubts on the following.
1) The mantra to be used in my case,
as there are more than one mantras available for Jupiter
2) What is the mantra for Guru Dashinamoorty? I do not know Guru Dashinamoorty well enough.
Is there any Mahavidya / Shiva / Vishnu mantra as an alternative choice ?
3) What is the connection of 5th lord of D-20 with Mantra and Ishta Devata? Does it not have any relation with D-9 ?
Best Regards
Nabatanu
October 31st, 2007 at 10:32 am
OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA
Dear Guru ji, Namaskar,
Dear Srini Rajitha ji namaskar,
i hope that with Guru ji’s blessings I will be able to answer your question.
The answer is no.
Because we all are still moving towards these eternal rules (to achieve perfection), which are being conveyed by our Guru jis. To my novice knowledge Guru jis have not imposed any restrictions to fine tune our thoughts to reach these rules (learners thoughts). Simply saying, we all are lending warm shoulders, one to other to reach these eternal rules. Some time we may (students like me) tune it wrong because of our ignorance and with the hope to get an opportunity to get corrected by Guru jis (only if we expose what we have learned).
The things will be clear through Parama Guru ji’s words in a reply titled “what Parasar advocates”, published in Rath’s Rhapsody dated June 7, 2006.
Rishi Parasara ji advocates Vishnu avatar Vamana for Jupiter and as well as Indra as planet’s deity. Rishi Jaimini ji Sambashiva and Sri Harihara ji Sri Jagannath. You see already Nabatanu Das ji is in difficult situation while finding ishta devata. Because of this and make the things simpler (even though it is not so simple. Even Gurus take into consideration the role played by D20) I have pen down my thoughts.
The fact is as above but the preference for identifying ishta may differ with ones experience and faith. For example: Rafal ji prefer Vishnu avatar (refer his reply to prathosh ji in Audarya fellowship site dated December 28, 2006).That is why I have coated Parama Guru ji’s Rhapsody for reference.
12H has no roopa. We are trying to give roopa. Why, because we are having roopa and will be able to accept comfortably the one as our guide which is having roopa that too Manusha mien.
The explanation for my approach is, as per Nabatanu Das ji’s statement; Jupiter is in 12H to karahamsa along with Ketu and also Jupiter is AMK (highest degree next to AK). So He is selected. For this Jupiter we can provide two roopa, one Vishnu roopa as Vamana or Sri Jagannath and the other Siva roopa Sambashiva. i selected (may be wrong) Siva roopa because, the depositor Mercury (Vishnu roopa) is debilitated in Meena as per Nabatanu Das ji statement. Now option is Siva. Because siva (Jupiter) is with gyana karaka Ketu, i simply assumed Sri Dakshnamoorthy as the Ishta who is always in gyana posture.
Apart from this Ketu’s position infer that he aspires for final emancipation. Remembering this and that all of us are traveling towards Yama day by day to get trapped into the vortex of rebirth, i thought of Sri Dakshnamoorthy. Who is always facing south, apposing Yama, to save us from this trap. i hope that this will able to help you to solve your own problem. Try! we are here to learn and Guru ji has created this golden opportunity to get our learning corrected.Even if errors are there in our selection it will automatically get corrected with time and with the blessings of Guru and faith
Nothing is greater than faith, the faith, that the faith in Guru.
With respects to Guru ji.
Yours Sincerely,
shishya dheena
October 31st, 2007 at 11:45 am
Dear Dheena, Namaskar.
The Ishta devata is the one whom we have the BHAVA of Sarvavyapakeshvara. That means, the one whom we approach as being in everyone and everything. If you believe Shiva is in everyone and everything, and can see Shiva in every person you meet, then Shiva has become your Ishta devata.
Now, the name: Sarvavyapakeshvara is one given to Vishnu normally, and he is also supposed to be the one who grants moksha, yet this is not his primary purpose in this abode. Vishnu’s primary purpose is to establish DHARMA. SO, if the dharmadevata becomes your istha devata then your Istha devata is a form of Vishnu!
Similarly, Shiva’s main purpose is to remove ignorance and our sins. Here he takes the role of Mahesvara and sits in the eighth house from Atmakaraka. So if Mahesvara is Istha devata then our Ishta is a form of Shiva.
Similarly approach the other forms as follows:
Palana devata (sixth from amatyakaraka): Devi.
Guru devata (bhratrikaraka): Guru or Jyotirlinga
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
October 31st, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Respected shishya dheena ji, Visti ji, Namaskar,
First of all I apologize for posting 4 messages
with same contents being baffled by messages
not showing up the blog page at times.
It is really an excellent post, I must say, especially
embracing the concept “as many beliefs, as many forms”,
citing various theories about selection of Ishta Devata
for Jupiter.
If your time permits and if you can throw some more light
w.r.t. my last two questions, it will be great.
However, my heartiest thanks to you for devoting some time to
help me understand how to reach the conclusion, step by step, though some open threads still remains in my mind regarding D-20, flexible choice of Ishta Devata as per ones belief etc.
I will be also eagerly waiting to learn from Visti ji on that.
Thanks once again.
With best regards
Nabatanu
October 31st, 2007 at 12:12 pm
OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA
Dear Guru Ji, Namaskar,
Dear Nabatanu Das ji, and Sirini Rajitha ji Namaskar.
Sorry for the arudha created by my reply to you both.
i am in no way a qualified person to address your request. i am a learner like you. i hope that you have missed my statement “let me try to help you as well myself to understand the problem in finding Ista devata”, and the statement “Rest in Guru ji’s words”.
Please kindly wait for Guru Ji’s words.
In the meantime for your hunger i here with provide Guru ji’s reply to Sutharsan ji in Audarya fellowship dated Aug 20, 2002, as some snacks.
“Jup from karakamsa is great blessing and praying to Almighty in the form of Nirguna Narayana is beneficial. Mantra “OM GURUVE NAMAH”.
Those who can avoid lying “OM TAT SAT”.
Then why i have replied so? is to fine tune my thoughts with other learners and get an opportunity to get corrected.
2) Regarding Vinsamsa and diety some simple procedure was laid in Guru ji’s reply to Krithi ji in Audarya fellowship dated Aug 21, 2002. Kindly refer this and visit Guru ji’s MP3 recorded lectures at Guru ji’s web site Srigaruda.com.
With respects to Guru ji.
Yours Sincerely,
Shishya dheena
October 31st, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Dear Visti-ji, Namaskar.
Thank you very much for your kind reply.
As I understand from it, we can choose either Shiva / Vishnu
as Ishta Devata, based on the fact who we see everywhere
in others. But I think it is a very advanced stage of spirituality
to find God’s presence in everything as Swami Vivekananda had.
So, what would you advise for ordinary people like me?
Can you kindly also let me know if D-20 can be used for this purpose and if yes, how.
with best regards
Nabatanu
October 31st, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Dear Shishya dheena-ji,
Thanks for the pointers.
I will look into Visti-ji’s reply to Krithi ji’s query.
I looked into the recorded lectures in MP3, but did not find any one on D-20, Vimshamsa. Probably I am finding the right place.
Will you mind pointing me towards the right section for that.
Yours sincerely
Nabatanu
October 31st, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Thanks for the explanation.
Does that mean my ishta devatha is Vishnu since Jupiter is alone in Pisces in the 12 house from Atmakaraka Saturn in Navamsa?
Once you know your ishta devatha, what are the further things to be done? Should we worship Him to guide us in the spiritual development or material development or both?
October 31st, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Dear Srini Rajitha, Namaskar.
The Ishta Devata goes by the name: Jeevanmukta-devata. That should answer your question.
In your case Jupiter is placed in the twelfth from karakamsa. This could be ANY form of God.
Since in your case Jupiter is also the dharma devata (ninth lord from karakamsa) it means Jupiter could be a form of Vishnu. So you should be advised to worship Sri Vamana Avatara. The Dharma-Gayatri is the mantra to worship him and is from the Rg Veda. The Mantra begins with: Trinipada vichakrame…
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
October 31st, 2007 at 3:10 pm
hare ramkrishna,
dear vistiji,
i would like to have your view that if the planet ie 12th from ak in navamsa is retrograde. what do we infer from this…do we take the lord of the sign or we just take the retrograde planet and worship the diety,,,
when planet representing the ishtadevta is retrograde — what does it signifies…
your eterNAl welwisher
aRNAB
October 31st, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Vistiji,
Thank you very much. I will search for the mantra online.
When you say “Jeevanmukta”, does it mean the god who will lead us to salvation?
November 5th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Dear Visti,
Do you have the Ishta Devata mantras that you give spelled out somewhere? I don’t hear well and can’t make out several of them.
Thank you,
Julli
November 6th, 2007 at 11:05 am
Dear Members, Namaskar.
Arnab
Retrograde Istha devata can mean that God requires three times as much effort from you in worship.
Srini Rajitha
Jeevan-mukta means liberated in this body.
Julli
I hope someone will provide a list of this.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
November 7th, 2007 at 4:49 am
Dear Julli,
For the Vishnu avataras, the mantras that Visti Ji mentioned in his lecture on Istha Devatha are:
Om Namo Bhagavathey XYZ, where XYZ is
Raamachandraaya / Mahaaraajaaya for Sun
Vaasudevaaya for Moon
Narasimhaaya for Mars
Balabhadraaya / Vaasudevaya for Mercury
Vaamadevaaya / Trivikramaaya for Jupiter (To conquer something, use Trivikramaaya, and to go beyond the mind, use Vaamadevaaya)
Hrisheekeshaaya for Venus
Akooparaaya for Saturn
Venkateshaya / Sreevaraahaaya for Rahu
Mahaamatsyaaya / Meenaavataaraya for Ketu
Sincerely,
Lata
November 7th, 2007 at 5:33 am
Dear Visti,
Namaste, hope you are doing well.
Could you please talk about how the Ista Devatha can be accertained, if there are multiple planets in 12th from Karakamsa? For example: Sani is the AK, in 2nd house, Simha in Navamsa. Navamsa Lagna is Karka, and contains both retrograde Guru (MK) and Rahu (BK). Neither the Dharma devata (Amk Mangala in Aries) or Palana Devatha (Budha in Kanya) have anything to do with either Guru or Rahu. Will the Ista devata be the combination of Guru and Rahu, perhaps as Shiva-Shakti? Or does Guru prevail because he is exalted in Karka, or is it Rahu, being the BK?
Thank you very much,
Lata
November 7th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Dear Lata, Namaskar.
The stronger planet is the most approachable. Since Bhratrikaraka is also there it points towards a form of Guru, and since Jupiter is the eighth lord from Atmakaraka it is definitely Shiva as the Guru. Say Shiva as the one who removes the eclipse and teaches Jyotish?… Dakshinamurty.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:50 am
dear visti,
namaste,thank you very much for the introduction of isthadevata.
I am totally confused in knowing my ista devata in my navamsa chart because there are two planets representing it.
In my case there are no planets in 12th from atmakaraka and its sign in aquarius, among the two lords, saturn is stronger placed with jupiter in cancer.
Now which of the two become my istadevata (saturn or jupiter)
please suggest me the istadevata.
And is there a specific istadevata depending on the sign that the concerned planet is placed in(cancer sign in my case)as there are many forms of devatas.
palana devata and istadevata is the same in my case.
thank you very much for your help and support.
yours sincerely,Raghava
November 24th, 2007 at 7:53 am
hare ramakrishna
dear Visti ji,
thankyou for your reply and although as you said mercury indicates lord vishnu as thats the planet i have 12th from ak[sani] in my d9 but inspite of this i have been doing shakti sadhana especially have developed strong inclination towards mother kali although have followed lordvishnu.there is a confussion on my mind as what to be followed.if you can just have a look at my chart with d20.i will be indebted and thankfull to you forever.may god bless you.
dob-10the dec,1984..pob-kolkata,india..time:18:09hrs
i would like to know about my deity and why is it that i feel like worshipping god in motherly form.
your eternal welwisher,
aRNAB
November 26th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Respected Visti Jee,
Namaskaram.
I heard your lecture on Navamsa. I have a few questions:
1. If AK is a malefic, do we exclude this and count how many more malefic are associated with AK to see what are our abilities like Mantra, Tantra or Yantra?
2. What if there are benefics also with AK?
In my chart
A) AK is a malefic (Shani) and is in 5th house in Navamsa.
B) AK is associated with Guru, Ketu and Chandra.
Does the above combination says I would pursue mantra sadhana in this life? My birth details (March 5th 1969, Vizianagaram (India), 6.15PM).
Thank you and Hari Om!
November 28th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Dear Vistiji,
My navamsha chart has libra lagna with exalted saturn,mercury
moon-mars in 4th house ,ketu in 5th house
6th house exalted venus,jupiter
7th house exalted sun
I am experiencing trouble in my married life.The partner is very dominant and aggressive .Even though I have many planets exalted in my D-9 ,what is the reason which causes trouble in marriage for me?
Will this marriage survive or end in discord?
Regards
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar.
Raghava
As you said Saturn is stronger than Rahu. So whilst analyzing Saturn you found that its joined Jupiter. So now the Ishta WILL be Jupiter. So conjunctions do change the Ishta Devata.
You are very lucky that Palana devata and Ishta Devata are the same. This means you will like to worship the mother and will perceive mother as God. Jupiter specifically indicates a form of Tara… Lets say Sri Neela-Sarasvati due to Saturns conjunction as this is a form of Tara which removes darkness/ignorrance.
aRNAB
Your Palana Devata is linked to your Ishta Devata, therefore you can easily worship your Ishta as your mother. Specifically Tripurasundari if i may say.
Ajay
1) no we include the nature of the AK as well.
2) Benefics with the AK ensure you will use whichever powers you have for ‘white magic’. But malefics are required to learn the occult practices as the more malefics associated the more suffering the native will see… this is why such atmas learn the occult ways… to lessen the karma.
Prasad
With two agni planets associated with the seventh house its not unusual that your partner is dominant and aggressive. Sun in seventh and mars lording it and exalted surely shows a very high level of Agni. You are married to an army general.
Now, the length of marriage is based on the Upapada in Rasi. See the second lord from Upapada and see what are the problems to it. Fast on days of the upapada to get a calm marriage.
If that doesn’t work then consider worshiping Sri Matangi devi.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
December 4th, 2007 at 7:57 am
Dear VistiJi,
My UL is in Taurus and has moon-mars in 2nd to it .moon-exalted mars in navamsa .Is this moon-mars in 2nd fortify or spoil the prospects
coming to my partner’s horoscope ,it is somewhat co incidental my partner has exalted Sun,Mars in own house with Rahu in 7th house .With Libra lagna and Jupiter-moon in 4th house,Exalted retro Venus with retro mercury in 6th house,retro saturn in 2nd house .
Can this also be inferred by this planetary positions in her chart that the root cause of fire,Any opinions on this?
Thanks
prasad
January 6th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Hi. I have a question about Isthadevata, Palanadevata and Dharmadevata and indications for spiritual pursuits.
My Rasi is as follows: Lagna, Venus and Maandi in Kanya; Sun, Mercury and Rahu in Thula; Jupiter and Moon in Meena; Ketu in Mesha; Mars in Mithuna; and Saturn in Kataka. At present I am running Mercury Dasa and just started on my Rahu Bhookti.
My navamsa is as follows: Lagna and Moon in Kataka; Saturn in Kanya; Mars and Ketu in Dhanur; Jupiter in Makara; Mercury and Maandi in Meena; Venus in Mesha; and Sun and Rahu in Mithuna.
The Atmakaraka is Sun (Karakamsa is Mithuna); Amatyakaraka is Jupiter; and Bhatrikaraka is Mercury.
In my Vimsamsa chart, Lagna, Jupiter, Sun, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu in Thula; Maandi in Dhanur; Mars in Makara; Venus in Meena; Mercury in Mesha; and Moon in Simha.
If I understand correctly from all available readings, my ISTADEVATA would be Mahalakshmi and Parasurama. However as Venus is debiliated in Rasi, I need to worship Yakshini devatas also. Is this true?
Second, Palanadevata (sixth house from Jupiter) would be Mercury who owns Mithuna, which also happens to be Karakamsa. Should I worship Mahavishnu’s avatar of Kalki? I do not subscribe Buddha as the Lord’s avatar as some literature indicate. Or since Sun and Rahu is placed in Mithuna and with the former having higher latitude, would it indicate I pray to Lord Rama and Siva?
And as Dharmadevata, since Saturn is 9th Lord, I would have to worship Lord Kurma? Or Lord Shastha?
Whom should I pray to as a Gurudevata (as seen from Bhatrikaraka)? Would it be Meena where Mercury is placed? In such a case, would it be Lord Rama or Lord Krishna?
I also understand that if Sun and Rahu are placed in Karakamsa, the concerned person will die of snake bites. Is this true? Mars and Ketu are influencing it strongly.
More importantly, with Sun and Rahu in Karakamsa (a trine position) and 5th house trine Lord Saturn with his 10th house aspect as well as Mars and Ketu with seventh house aspects (with all malefic planets and no aspects from benefic planets) enable the concerned person to engage in mantra/tantra/yantra sadhanas and be successful in it? I am already initiated into a number of mantras by learned gurus. Perhaps, my Vimsamsa chart could confirm this.
I feel if you could advise me on the appropriate deities to worship (through mantra or sadhanas), it will be beneficial for my spiritual and life pursuits.
Regards.
K. Kalyanaram
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Om Guruve Namah
Respected Visti Ji,
Your mp3’s are great, please accept my appreciation for that. I am a beginner in astrology and learnt a lot (and still learning) from your mp3’s.
I am having Mars and Ketu in my navamansha lagna, but I have not learnt martial arts and I am not even a good fighter (also physically not that strong). From your mp3’s I learnt that Mars in Navamansha trines makes a person interested in martial arts.
This put me in doubt of having wrong navamansha lagna. But except this this lagna seems to best suited to me (it is my speculation).
Please guide me why I am not having this trait of Mars and Ketu in Navamansha Lagna.
My Birth details are:-
DOB - 17th March, 1985
Time -13:17
Place - Bhagwant Nagar, India
Thanks,
Shivam
January 25th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar.
Prasad
The Moon and Mars in the second from Upapada shows the ‘excuses’ which cause the marriage to suffer. Moon joined Mars shows fights and emotional highs and lows. Quite erratic behavior at times. Check Mercury (the lord of the 2nd) and see his house placement in rasi and navamsa. This will reveal how long the marriage can last. If Mercury is strong then he will let marriage survive and will keep you together for his maximum vimshottari dasa (17 years) without any separation. After these 17 years you may become more independant, but need not divorce.
K. Kalayanaram
First the following: Dharmadevata is always a Vishnu avatara as Vishnu upholds dharma.Palana Devata is always a Devi or Mahavidya as she is the giver of the digpala phala. The Gurudevata is always Shiva as he is the highest among Gurus.
The ishta devata can be EITHER of these and depends on the natives own view. If the ishta doesn’t ascribe to either of the dharma, palana or guru devatas then treat the pratyadhi devata as the Istha devata.
So in your case Lakshmi is your Ishta devata. Do not apply the list given by Prasna marga to the istha or other devatas, as that shows the natives preference which as we know may not be advisable. This is because the Ishta devata shows how we look at God. I.e. some people believe God is the blessing of wealth, whilst others see God as being the care and nurture of a mother. Some people believe some really horrible things about God, and we should not encourage their own weaknesses.
Therefore advise the devatas as given by Parasara and Jaimini.
The Atmakaraka is the atmalinga, so being that your Palana devata falls in the same place as the atmakaraka, you must advise one of the eight atmalingas to be worshipped - they are forms of Shiva and are different from the Gururupa (Jyotirlinga). Ishana is the suns atmalinga and should be worshipped.
Mercury is your Gurudevata and is the Malikkarjuna Jyotirlinga of Shiva.
Your Dharma devata is indeed Koorma avatara.
The Karakamsa doesn’t show how you will die, but what you may suffer as a result of wrong atmagati.
The mantras you have learnt would surely support you in learning how to overcome the bondage of the atma caused by planets in trines to the karakamsa.
I would advise the worship of Shiva with the Shadakshari mantra in particular in your case to ensure the best possible results spiritually.
Shivam
If you haven’t even had an interest in martial arts then i would suspect also that your navamsa lagna is incorrect. Further with Ketu on the navamsa lagna you should have been born by forcebs delivery. Ask your parrents about this and if it isn’t the case then change the navamsa lagna.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
January 27th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Hi Visti,
Namaste,
I am one of your ardent followers, who tries to read your articles,email etc whenever time permits me. Just went thro’ the discussion on navamasa. Pls guide me as in my navamasa Saturn is in 10th house so what kind of ill-effects I will face in Saturn Dasa, in my job matter?And is there any remedy for it?
My birthdetails are:
14th oct 1974,12.14 in noon,Mumbai
Regards
Parag
January 27th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Dear Vistiji,
It was interesting to note that mars in trines in navamsa gives interest in martial arts.in fact i tried that long time ago but i have mars along with rahu in 4th house from lagna in navamsa.does this combination in kendra in navamsa also give interest in martial arts? if not then my navamsa lagna may not be correct,so please give your opinion.
Thank You
Rupa.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:31 am
vistiji,
one suggestion..why dont we have detailed discussion on mantra in jyotish regards??
January 28th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Dear Vistiji,
Please let me know about the variation of the mrityunjaya mantra you spoke of that is beneficial for relationships. I have tried to search for it on my own but haven’t been successful. Hope you can reply soon.
Thanks, Kamal
January 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Namaste visti ji, and dear members
I completely agree with you Vistiji and rupa…i have mars(AK) in trine in navamsa and have a great interest in Martial arts….i even went to the classes but could not even complete first level due to a kneecap problem and i study away from home..so i had to stop the class…but still very much craze about martial arts..
Regards
vinay.v
January 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar.
Rupa
Weigh all factors. Normally Mars in trines would make one short tempered also, as well as a good cook.
Further which signs are involved. Mars lording the navamsa lagna can also give shot interest in martial arts.
Also Rahu and Mars in the fourth would give serious disease like TB or typhoid, depending on the sign. So what are the signs?
Astroyogi
When the mantra section of this website grows more, then such discussions will be presented. If your serious though, then begin learning from the sohamsa courses, where mantras is a keen part of the discussions. This goes much deeper once one joins the Jaimini course as well.
Yours, Visti
January 31st, 2008 at 3:00 am
Dear Vistiji,
My navamsa lagna is scorpio so you are right about mars lording the lagna and giving short interest in martial arts–as my interest was very short lived.Mars and rahu are in the sign aquarius and you are also right about TB.everything fits into the picture very well but why is the sign aquarius associated with diseases?
Thank You
Rupa.
January 31st, 2008 at 9:00 am
Dear Visti,
1. If the planet indicating ID conjons more than 1 planet, then which one to choose? e.g. as in example above, if Sa had conjoined Ju and say Ma - which one wud be it - would we see their longitude in rasi?
2. For Vishnu form of DD, are there 9-syllable mantras to be used (like there are 12-syllable mantras for Visnhu form as ID)?
Many thanx
SS
January 31st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Dear Visti ji,
Thank you always for your kind concern.
Though I found out only a few things regarding my marriage,it’s not too deep either.My 7th house Navamsa lord is Jupiter(if I am correct), in Saggitarius.From here, does it mean that my partner will be a sensible, understanding and a pure human being? Also my lord of the 2nd house from UL in rasi chart(is navamsa chart considered in this matter also?) is Saturn.What does this Saturn signify?Is it true that Jupiter is aspected by or is aspecting the 2nd house lord from UL(Saturn) in the rasi chart?
Though my Navamsa as well as some divisional charts charts will drastically change if rectification is needed.
My birth details are as follows:
D.O.B:29th September,1982
T.O.B:12:37 pm(standard time)
P.O.B:Yamato city(Kanagawa prefecture),Japan.
Awaiting your kind response.
Warm Regards,
Lemna.
February 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar.
Rupa
Glad to hear that we have the right navamsa for you.
Fourth house in navamsa when housing malefics can give diseases. The TB could not be avoided because of Mars, but otherwise should have been mild.
Soul Sadhak
1. Always choose the strongest planet. First see the sign-dignity as being exalted, own sign, etc. If you cannot reach a decission at this point, then check degrees.
2. Why not suit the mantras to the individual chart? First decide whether you want your Ishta devata to manifest physically in your life (rasi) or more in the realm of spirituality (navamsa).
Then see the house of your Ishta devata and choose a mantra with as many aksharas as that house. I.e. for Ishta devata in eleventh house chose an eleven syllable or 23 syllable (11+12) mantra.
The number of words in the mantra can be chosen based on the sign of your atmakaraka in rasi/navamsa - depending on the choice made as above. This way your Atma will move towards the Ishta. Some people prefer the opposite, i.e. Ishta should meet their Atma. This is the essential difference between the PERSONAL dvaita and advaita concept.
Lemna
The second from upapada sustains the marriage. If its Saturn then Saturn will require hard work to sustain the marriage.
As a result if things are left to sustain themselves, then Saturn will let the hard workers get stressed due to health problems and possible sorrow due to not meeting their own expectations. This would then be the issues bothering the relationship itself. Luckily this can easily be solved with good mantras.
Jupiter definitely shows a very nice and sensible spouse. Very balanced person in general and having good moral conduct.
Do check out my lectures on dristi to learn more about it.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen
February 1st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
hello sir
this chart has as many as 5 planets in trines in navamsha… mars sun and mercury in lagna and rahu and jupiter in 5th house.. what does it indicate regarding talents and abilities?
can u pls tell about the marital life of this person and the spouse?
birth details
29th november, 1988
00:55 am
latitude 26 degrees 55 minutes
longitude 75 degrees 52 minutes
February 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
hare ramakrsna
dear Visti ji,
1] Could you please throw some light on the use of malamantra for the Ishta or any specific devta in the navamsa.When is the mala mantra used.
2] Please correct me here,Doesnt 4th karkamsa shows the grace of mother as said
||Gatistvam gatistvam tvameka bhavani||..Could you please ellaborate on this further.Does praying to mother or mahavidya rupa of the planet aspecting the 4th from karkams by rashi dristi helps the native go towards his ID. I saw in the charts of Sri Ramakrishna,Maa Anandomoyi,Sri Lahiri Mahasaya,Sri RamanMaharshi,Swami Vivekananda.All have planets aspecting the 4th from ak by strong venus or moon or are conjoined there.Kindly guide on this .
Also does ak aspecting the 4th from it does it means the native also is aware of the path to walk on.
Must say even your posts with respect to replying other people is a learning experience for me.God bless.Thank you.
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 am
Om Guruve namah,
Dear VistiJi,
Thank you for your kind guidence. My birth is forceps birth only. As well, I am short tempered too, this increased during last few mounts (mars retro in gemini, my navamansha lagana and rashi lagna too), but I dont seem to have any interest in martial art. Furthermore if I try to analyse the nakhsatra based dasha system in my chart then vimshottari seems to work better than shatabdika, but according to my chart being vargottama navamansha shatabdika should work better. That leads me into a lot of confusion about my navamansha being accurate. Please guide.
Thanks,
Shivam
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Dear Visti ji,
Thank you very much for your clarification.I’m glad to know about my destined partner, but my 2nd lord Saturn from UL, will be working on breaking our relationship.So from that do you see divorce, or 2nd marriage?I never want to ever think about it, since I have had enough of my life.You said there is a good mantra. Since when should I chant it,would you recommend from mercury antardasha or before that?
I’m looking for your lecture on dristi, is it in this Navamsa article or some other?
Thank you always.
Warm Regards ,
Lemna.
February 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 am
ear Visti ji,
I got another finding from a book on Jaimini Sutra, regarding UL,
since my second house lord from the UL in rasi chart is Saturn and also Saturn happens to be my Atmakaraka, does it mean that I will have no husband in the latter part of the life(although the book says no wife).What does it signify?
Thank you always.
Warm Regards,
Lemna.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Dear Visti,
1. Clear now.
2. Very interesting to ponder on Who would (need to) approach Whom. Personally, dvaita and advaita both fit well and also that the Supreme is Both and Neither.
Thanx again,
SS.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Dear Visti,
thanks a lot for your reply to my question in parivartana section.
I have a question arised in my mind after lecture on navamsa: what planet indicate interest in Tai Chi and Qigong. In Asia i believe, so many people practice Qigong, Tai Chi, Kunq Fu not as martial art, but to improve health (and me too).What do you think, Vistiji, all this people have mars in trines or some other planet controls this matter?
February 6th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Dear Vistiji,
Once again thank you for these wonderful lectures of yours. Without these, persons like me have no chance in this life to begin learning this divine vidya. I have a question regarding impact of a parent in an individual’s life:
- Am I I correct that one of the things to check is… first look at the the 5th and 9th lords in D9.
- You then see how these planets are placed in the rasi chart…if well placed eg exhalted then the relationship is beneficial to the individual.
If debilitated or badly placed then the relationship is harmful?
If my above understanding is correct, and if the D9 ninth lord (ie father) is debilitated in the 8th house in rasi chart AND it is Saturn, then what can be done to minimise the damage to the individual, especially if it is still a young child??
What other things should be looked at?
Thank you
Khushee
February 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar.
Rishabh
More planets indicates more abilities. This also grants good intellect. What do you think of the persons married life based on the chart?
Arnab
Just as beejakshara is for babies, the mala mantra is for wizards. So also the stages of spiritual initiation involve the increasing of the mantra-syllables. This is an important part of the Parampara, and i recommend you join the Jaimini course if you are serious about learning such subjects.
As for the fourth from Karakamsa, you are correct that this shows the Gati of the native. But if the person has durgati then this causes complication and this manifests first in health problems to the body. Therefore in such cases the native must worship Durga in the form of the malefic planets… We advise mahavidya for this.
Shivam
So i guess nodes should be on your navamsa lagna. Your lack of interest in martial arts can simply be a time-factor as the traits of the navamsa and trines are indeed dependant on WHEN the interest is sparked in the native.
The Udu-Dasa variations are very much dependant on the persons perception of the world. A strong Jupiter or Moon in the chart will promote the use of Narayana and Vimshottari dasa respectively. But Shatabdika will indeed work.
Lemna
The mantra i gave you was specifically for your atmakaraka and will liberate you from many issues. Further, deciding who will live and who won’t is not decided solely by Saturns lordship of Upapada. If so then Jyotish just would be too simple.
The mantra i gave you will give you all that you want. You must just ask. In this try to forget what you ‘dont’ want.
SS
Paul
When you read the Pravrajya-yoga section of BPHS you see that Parasara mentions two types of Pravrajya yoga. One formed by Saturn associated with Moon and one by Mars associated with Moon.
The two paths are that of overcoming impurity (Saturn) and overcoming violence (Mars).
Whilst both are integral parts of all spiritual paths, the path of overcoming Mars is quite popular among the countries influenced by Buddhism.
Mars is the violence, whilst Mercury is the non-violence approach… Mercury hates fighting. Jupiter specifically promotes peace and is the higher octave of Mercury where wisdom becomes important. Instead Mercury just sees violence as an obstruction to learning. Further Mercury gives interest in Yoga.
So, expect either Mars or Mercury to be in trines to the navamsa
If its Mars then the motivation is to practice non-violence, and if its Mercury then the motivation is to improve the body.
THEN! See these planets in the Rasi to see the exact motivation for this activity, i.e. did the person join a monastery or is it just a pasttime?
Finally, we can also check all these placements from the karakamsa itself to see the attitude to the activity. I.e. many with Mars/Mercury in second to karakamsa would get involved in such activities as they can’t help but feed that activity - i.e. donate money or spend time with the activity.
This way we can see alot.
Khushee
Your question needs a very firm clarification.
Parents cannot be correctly investigated from the Navamsa chart. Just forget any such analysis. Except if we are talking of a Prasna chart where the divisional charts act differently. But you can see inlaws from the D9 chart. Treat the seventh house as lagna for this.
Analyze parrents from the Rasi, D12, d40 and d45 charts. I find that this analysis is more than enough.
Yours sincerely, Visti
February 7th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
married life should be alright as the upapada is rashi chart has jupiter in the second from it and its lord venus is in its own house in libra placed 7th from the upapada lagna. but there is a curse on venus due to aspect of rahu and mars and that can lead to problems especially when mool dasha of venus starts. i think the only method for remedy of the curse is to worship lord prajapati. am i right in my interpretation? how bad is the curse of venus? this is my girl friend’s chart and i really want to marry her. any remedies i can do?
February 7th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
thanks a lot sir
February 9th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Dear Visti ji,
After all my Atmakaraka is also there building up my problems.
Even though I will get a nice husband, my atmakaraka , saturn will destroy the relationship, and when you say health problems and disputes will come up, all cause will be due to me and only me right?
It would be really great if you could share me something on this. Mercury antardasha would be a very good time for profession, but would it also be a nice opportunity for my marriage.
Thank you always.
Warm Regards,
Lemna.
February 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar
Rishabh
When Venus sustains marriage he requires physical intimacy. If this is not provided in the marriage then the partners may go elsewhere to attain this. Keep this in mind.
Lemna
Everything is due to our own karma alone. Spiritual people like to repeat this truth but very few remember it when staring troubles in the eye. So yes, even your troubles are due to your own karma, but your real question is: who will be blamed for it in this life? I.e. if Bhutto was killed in a bomb blast everyone is looking towards terrorists to blame. But truth is that Bhutto needed the bombers to fulfil her karma of dying in such an event.
So, if you ask who will be blamed, then in your case the second from Upapada being lorded by Saturn would only let the blame fall on fate as health is difficult for other people to influence.
But this is what the remedy is for, isn’t it?
Mercury antaradasa is a good time for marriage, but are you sure you will marry during this time? Good time and destined time are two separate questions. Study the Naisargika dasa for this.
Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen.
February 9th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
oh ok… but doesnt jupiter, though retrograde, go a long way in maintaining the fidelity and sanctity of marriage as its present in second from upapada?
thanks for all your care and attention
February 10th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Dear Visti ji,
Very true about Bhutto, that was her Karma after all..
My Saturn is always there giggling at me,and for that I have to chant the mantra given by you, I will try again, please give me some time..
So mercury antardasha is a good time for marriage, but there is also a destined time, thats a very good thing to know, but I believe the destined time wouldn’t be that far from mercury antardasha as the mercury antardasha itself will last till for about 3 years..
What would you say about this?
I’m still stuck on the grahas in the dristi lecture, it will take
alot of time to understand astrology, as it is too deep.Thats how I feel.
Awaiting your kind response.
Thank you always.
Warm Regards,
Lemna.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Dear Members, Namaskar
Rishabh
Jupiters positions here ensures that once children come into the picture the marriage cannot break.
Lemna
The best dasa system for marriage is the naisargika dasa. Do analyze it.
Yours sincerely, Visti.
February 11th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
hello sir
yea i get the logic behind that. so does that imply that effect of jupiter will start in the relationship only when children are born?
how can the outcome be predicted before that? does children here also include adopted children?
thank for all the care
February 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Dear Rishabh, Namaskar
Jupiter will give its effects as long as the couple are aspiring to have children and also get children. It doesn’t matter whether they are biological or not.
Yet, heres a tip. Check the Upapada itself to see if the partner wants children. If Rahu is placed in the Upapada then partner may leave or a similar separation may occur, once children come into the picture.
Yours, Visti.
February 13th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
hello sir
thats really interesting! is it confined only to placement of rahu in the upapada or also the rashi drishti of rahu on the upapada or also the upapada lord conjunct with rahu?
thanks sir
February 14th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Dear Rishabh, Namaskar
Review the situation carefully. Essentially if Rahu indicates the spouse (Upapada) and the sustenance of the marriage depends on Jupiter (2nd from Upapada), then there exists a problem as the ideals of the spouse do not match the requirements for the relationship to last.
So essentially the spouse must fully embody the qualities of the specific planet involved, here Rahu. So conjunction with the Upapada, or if the Upapada is unoccupied, then joined the lord or lording.
Just as Rahu and Jupiter don’t go along well with each other, there are other planetary mismatches which cause these issues.
Yours sincerely, Visti
February 15th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
respected sir
got it. so in the same way if rahu is present in second from upapada or lording it or joins the lord of the 2nd from the upapada then what would be its requirements to help the relationship last?
according to my understanding its always bad for the relationship if rahu is in anyway related to the second from the upapada.
if upapada is in aquarius and pisces has rahu in the it then ignoring other considerations it should be a decent combination to help the relationship last. am i right?
am i right in my thinking that atmakaraka in the second from the upapada or conjoining the lord of the second from the upapada would mean that the person would try really hard to help the relationship last and would manage to do that eventually?
if the lord of the upapada is debilitated then its bad for the longevity of the relationship. but what are the effects if the lord of the second from the upapada is debilitated. i think it mainly indicates the diseases which the partner would have to face and does not affect the longevity of the relationship as such. is it so?
fasting on the days of the upapada is advised to maintain the relationship and other reasons. so if the person is in his or her 2nd or 3rd relationship then is fasting on the day of the lord lording the 2nd or 3rd upapada advised instead of fasting on the day of the first upapada?
thanks for enlightening me with your invaluable answers.
Rishabh
February 17th, 2008 at 5:04 am
Dear Vistiji,
I have aquarius asc with UL, MeR (atmakarak), Su (amatyakarak), Ke in second house; Ve, Mo, AL in third house; Ju in 5th; Ma in 6th; SaR in 7th; Ra in 8th… (dob is 10 april 1978; 4:05 am; time zone 5:30 EST 79 E 27′ and 28 N 22′)
I got married in feb 2006 and got a baby in august 2007. Mine has been a rocky marriage. Will there be divorce? I also wonder what led to this disastrous marriage in my life? What curse might be there in my chart? what can i do to improve?
February 17th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Dear Vistiji,
If the lord of the 2nd from upapada is 8th to itself and there are no planets in the 2nd from upapada what does it indicate regarding sustenance of the marriage? Please give your opinion.
Thank You,
Rupa.
April 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Dear Vistijee,
Thank you for the excellent discourse. It definitely has gone a long way towards incresing my understanding of astrology. I was trying to interpret my own chart and was a little perplexed.
I have Ketu- Venus and Buddha placed in the trines to navamansa. Also, I have both Sun and Moon debilitated in the navamsa chart while they are in their own sign in the rashi. Now am I correct to assume that this would mean that I would miss a lot of ‘fame’/glamor and peace in my life on account of their debilitation. What is worrying me even more is that since the navamsa takes over in the late 20’s early 30’s I feel my life is going to be tougher. What is your opinion?
I do have a parivatan yoga in the namansa chart between sun and venus - will this abate the loss of good yogas in the navamansa. Also, could the moon debilitated in the navansa in the 8th house mean a painful death with prolonged illness?
Lastly, curiously enough i have the yoga with the lagnesha - i.e the depositor of the lagnasha in rashi i.e moon and depositor of moon in navamnsa i.e mars are placed in kendra in the rashi. Is this supposed to bring any rajayoga. According to your Lagnesha article - with such a yoga every wish will get fulfilled? Is this true?
Here are my details:
6th September 1980
10: 12 AM
Varanasi, India
I apprecite your taking the time to clarify.
Warm regards,
Bheebhatsu
April 8th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Dear Visti,
While going through your previous posts I came across a reply of yours ..”.. Why not suit the mantras to the individual chart? First decide whether you want your Ishta devata to manifest physically in your life (rasi) or more in the realm of spirituality (navamsa).
Then see the house of your Ishta devata and choose a mantra with as many aksharas as that house. I.e. for Ishta devata in eleventh house chose an eleven syllable or 23 syllable (11+12) mantra.
The number of words in the mantra can be chosen based on the sign of your atmakaraka in rasi/navamsa - depending on the choice made as above. This way your Atma will move towards the Ishta. Some people prefer the opposite, i.e. Ishta should meet their Atma. This is the essential difference between the PERSONAL dvaita and advaita concept.”..
So if I understand it correctly then its best to choose the number of aksharas of mantra corresponding to the sign placement of the planet representing Istha devata from the karakamsa or karaka lagna? Not the navamsa lagna or rasi lagna right?
Again tallying this with your lecture on Ketu, if the planet joined ketu or depositing ketu has no connection to either of ID, DD or PD then is it advisible to pray or chant mantras for that deity?
2)In one of the posts above you had mentioned that jup being the second lord from UL, gettign children becomes important for sustaining marriage? I was wondering that jupiter is also the spiritual planet, so if both of the partners get involved in spirituality seriously will it help to sustain?
In the following chart 16th Mar 1971, 3:40pm benaras(83E, 25N22)..(CANCER LAGNA, TULA RASI).. the person is in her 3rd major relationship, so scorpio with jupiter is the UL, mars is second from UL in sagitarius. Now the two partners do not plan on children but they spend most part of their time visting pilgrimages and doing sadhana together. There seems to be no probelms in the relationship as such. Is it because of the spiritual orientation? Kindly enlighten me on the logic.
3) You had mentioned once taht if the UL lord and AL lord become same planet, or UL lord is also lord of 2nd house from lagna then fasting on that day is not adviced. So what should one do incase UL and AL lord are same.
-Thanks in advance
Regards
Rajarshi
April 20th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Dear Visti - Namaste.
According to your lectures on d-9 the abilities are seen from trines. But what is KRAMA here? How we judge strength of these trines ? Which one should be the strongest? PLEASE explain.
Regards.
Satish.
October 13th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Dear Visti ji
What about the planets which are not in trine but have a rashi drishti on lagna or any of the trine?
Regards
nimisha